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Apr 12 2019 05:02pm
They say it's all fitness and adaptation etc but why would a baby shit its pants. Or mental disorders. Infanticide. Etc
Doesnt add up
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Apr 12 2019 05:04pm
Doesn't it?
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Apr 12 2019 05:47pm
what about when the english brought over sparrows to the Americas?

evolution teaches that the native birds should have evolved a different shape beak to feed on something else in order to survive....

but what happened was countless species went extinct
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Apr 12 2019 06:57pm
Quote (caswallen @ Apr 12 2019 05:47pm)
what about when the english brought over sparrows to the Americas?

evolution teaches that the native birds should have evolved a different shape beak to feed on something else in order to survive....

but what happened was countless species went extinct


Evolution takes time. If you wipe out the population in a few generations due to a sudden change thats how extinctions happen.
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Apr 12 2019 08:57pm
There's not really any evolutionary pressure for a baby to not shit its pants lol. As for the other things there could be any number of explanations, it could be that in some situations infanticidal tendencies benefit the tribe, if there is a shortage of resources for example. It could be that mental disorders are simply a byproduct of our big brains that is outweighed by the obvious benefits of being smarter than everything else. Evolution isn't perfect. It also could just be that those things are environmentally triggered by things we haven't been adequately selected to deal with yet, we know for example that prolonged stress resulting from say a 40+ hour workweek in a high pressure deadline filled job can lead to mental health issues, and that exposure to somewhat ubiquitous chemicals like lead and mercury can cause mental health issues. We are a dysgenic abomination race living in ever increasingly unnatural conditions, some things are bound to crack eventually.

This post was edited by Perd_Hapley on Apr 12 2019 09:06pm
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Apr 14 2019 05:31pm
Quote (hoipolloi @ Apr 12 2019 06:02pm)
They say it's all fitness and adaptation etc but why would a baby shit its pants. Or mental disorders. Infanticide. Etc
Doesnt add up



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Apr 16 2019 08:22am
Quote (hoipolloi @ Apr 13 2019 01:02am)
They say it's all fitness and adaptation etc but why would a baby shit its pants. Or mental disorders. Infanticide. Etc
Doesnt add up


it doesnt work like that
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Apr 16 2019 10:34am
there isn't an evolutionary reason to shit one's pants, but pants themselves are an evolutionary adaptation. it takes 1 day to invent pants, maybe 100 years to get everyone to wear them. it takes a long time for infants of your species to gain conscious control of their bowels through evolutionary means. so give babies some time to catch up to the pants, and in the mean time we have diapers. because even if babies could control their bowels they'd still shit their pants just to watch someone clean it up.
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Apr 16 2019 11:02am
U guys are going for the low hanging fruit mental disorders disease etc is much more damni to thebevokution hypothesis there is no reason for it for survivial
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Apr 16 2019 03:11pm
Quote (hoipolloi @ Apr 16 2019 11:02am)
U guys are going for the low hanging fruit mental disorders disease etc is much more damni to thebevokution hypothesis there is no reason for it for survivial


Evolution doesnt really care about mental disorders if it doesnt impair reproduction. You can function until breeding age with most mental disorders so theres no pressure to select against them. Same reason we have wisdom teeth problems.

Also, having big brains is more beneficial to survival than an occasional mental disorder is harmful.

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