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McDavid
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Apr 4 2019 08:36am
Dear Mr./Ms./Mrs. Rogue
At what % would you recommend I use my skills in solo / group play for efficiency's sake? Surely I'm not waiting until 200% every time, but I also surely shouldn't spam as soon as I can just so my actions make it look like I'm contributing
Thank you
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Apr 4 2019 08:55am
Quote (McDavid @ 4 Apr 2019 15:36)
Dear Mr./Ms./Mrs. Rogue
At what % would you recommend I use my skills in solo / group play for efficiency's sake? Surely I'm not waiting until 200% every time, but I also surely shouldn't spam as soon as I can just so my actions make it look like I'm contributing
Thank you


Ellos - I would recommend 90ish% whereby you have to check what ability you use.

You may charge fix pattern abilities at a lower percent rate as abilites which can be used on any row/column
Backstab will give you more/the same amount of damage with a lower charge than Knockdown.

To Start out with i'd go for
Backstab 80 - 100
Knockdown 90 - 110
Depending on your weapon

Rule of thumb is you want to make the optimum dmg with the charge - not the maximum. So 2*80% Charges can be better than a 200% charge as you may waste damage by defeating the monster in one it.

But as said it all depends on your weapon and you will need to get a feeling on the charge speed as well as the avg dmg output.

i'll take that point into future guides. thx!
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Apr 4 2019 09:01am
Ty for this
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Apr 4 2019 10:03am
ob man so trusted wird hab ich gefragt.
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Apr 4 2019 11:54am
nice one ! thanks Jan

hope you gonna do this for every class, it would be very nice !

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izParagonzi
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Quote (tigre900 @ Apr 5 2019 02:49am)
Guardian should be remaked remade... :mad:


There isn't a specific Guardian guide, there are informational advice referring to the Guardian in both of my Guides.
Basic Hardcore / Softcore Melee / Tank guide and Solo Hardcore Heavy Weapon thread:

Guardian: Best Build Option as Tank / Healer based on starting Vitality / Intelligence stats as well as Abilities being healing.
Restricted to using Chain / Plate and Healing Charms ONLY
Weapons: Club and All Heavy Weapons.
Starting Stats: 30 Strength / 10 Dexterity / 55 Intelligence / 55 Vitality

Following information referring to build and items to use

Guardian Solo Heavy Weapon Build:
Note: If your gear has a combined 20% or more Quick Draw, it can interrupt your next action whether it is Healing or Exiting game.

Stats:
... 75-90 Vitality / 50-75 Intelligence : Rest of the points towards your MQ Weapon Ratio Highest Stat
Weapons: preferably 75% or more Enhanced Effect
... Battleaxe (50/50 ratio) | Longswords (75str/25dex ratio) | Spears (10str/90dex ratio)
... Polearms (25str/75dex ratio) & Warhammers (90str/10dex ratio) are secondary options.
... Note: Since you start with more Strength, I would opt for Strength Ratio weapons.
Armor:
... Plates/Chain Mail with Stats to suit your Weapons Ratio and try to stay within the Tier Level of your toon Level.
... Note: Maybe have spare Intelligence armor for some of those dicey EPs that cast dmg.
Main Charms:
... Heal Type ONLY with Stats to suit your Weapons Ratio.
... Note: Stat plus HM are better, or Dual stat damage / intelligence for some of those dicey EPs that cast dmg.
ACC Slot Charms:
... Focus Heals (1st option) / Regular Heals (2nd option) with 80% or more Enhanced Effect as long as Tier Lvl = Toon Lvl
Abilities:
... Salvation: 20% / 36% / 48% / 58% (total 4 points = level 15 achieved)
... Retribution: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% (total 5 points = level 40 achieved with Salvation)
... Note: Increase any ability to help with either faster dmg or heal... 1 more point Salvation = 66%

Guardian Group Melee Build:
Note: This character will most likely be in the BACK row unless requested for Middle (dependent on group setup)

Stats:
... 75 Vitality : Rest of the points towards your MQ Weapon Ratio Highest Stat
... Note: Ask group whether they are exploring (if so what level from / to) and ask them IF you need more than 75 Vitality.
Weapons: preferably 100% or more Enhanced Effect
... Club (90str/10dex ratio) | Battleaxe (50/50 ratio) | Longswords (75str/25dex ratio)
... Spears (10str/90dex ratio) | Polearms (25str/75dex ratio) & Warhammers (90str/10dex ratio) are secondary options.
... Note: Since you start with more Strength, I would opt for Strength Ratio weapons.
Armor:
... Plates/Chain Mail with Stats to suit your Weapons Ratio and try to stay within the Tier Level of your toon Level.
Main Charms:
... Heal Type ONLY with Stats to suit your Weapons Ratio.
... Note: Dual Damage Stat are better, or Dual stat damage / intelligence &/or Vitality for defense.
ACC Slot Charms:
Note: Using enhanced effect heal type charm can come in handy to backup caster / healer in group IF needed.
... Focus Heals (1st option) / Regular Heals (2nd option) with 80% or more Enhanced Effect as long as Tier Lvl = Toon Lvl
Abilities: Full Group 1
... Knockdown: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% (total 5 points = level 20 achieved)
... Bottomsup: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% (total 5 points = level 45 achieved with Knockdown)
... Note: Increase any ability to help with faster charge rate for damage. Third Ability = Backstab, problem is that you will be level 70 by the time you get to 40% charge.
Abilities: Full Group 2:
... Multistrike: 06% / 12% / 17% / 22% / 27% / 31% / 35% / 39% (total 5 points = level 35 achieved)
... Knockdown: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% (total 5 points = level 55 achieved with Multistrike)
... Note : You can opt for only Multistrike = 52% @ level 55


Guardian Melee / Tank Build (Solo or Group):
Note: Your position in group is Front. Concentrate on damage while tanking.

Stats:
... 75-95 Vitality (Core & Gear related) : Rest of the points towards your MQ Weapon Ratio Highest Stat
Weapons: preferably 100% or more Enhanced Effect and Club being main weapon.
... Club (90str/10dex ratio) | Battleaxe (50/50 ratio) | Longswords (75str/25dex ratio)
... Spears (10str/90dex ratio) | Polearms (25str/75dex ratio) & Warhammers (90str/10dex ratio) are secondary options.
... Note: Since you start with more Strength, I would opt for Strength Ratio weapons.
Armor: 100% Enhanced Effect or more.
... Plates/Chain Mail as stated 100% or more enhanced effect and within the Tier Level of your toon Level.
... Note: Enhanced Effect and damage stat combination armor is better.
Main Charms:
... Heal Type ONLY with Stats to suit your Weapons Ratio.
... Note: If you do NOT have any Damage stat charms, you can use Vitality &/or Intelligence charm here for defense.
ACC Slot Charms:
... Focus Heals (1st option) / Regular Heals (2nd option) with 80% or more Enhanced Effect as long as Tier Lvl = Toon Lvl
Abilities: Full Group 1:
... Knockdown: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% (total 5 points = level 20 achieved)
... Bottomsup: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% (total 5 points = level 45 achieved with Knockdown)
... Note: Increase any ability to help with faster charge rate for damage. Third Ability = Backstab, problem is that you will be level 70 by the time you get to 40% charge.
Abilities: Full Group 2:
... Multistrike: 06% / 12% / 17% / 22% / 27% / 31% / 35% / 39% (total 5 points = level 35 achieved)
... Knockdown: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% (total 5 points = level 55 achieved with Multistrike)
... Note : You can opt for only Multistrike = 52% @ level 55
Abilities: Solo:
... Salvation: 20% / 36% / 48% (total 3 points = level 10 achieved)
... Powerstrike: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% (total 5 points = level 35 achieved with Salvation)
... Retribution: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% (total 4 points = level 55 achieved with Salvation & Powerstrike)
... Note: Increase any ability to help with faster charge rate for damage or healing.

Guardian Melee / Heal Build (Solo / Group):
Note: Group dynamic, role, positioning and gear availability lead to many variations. The following information will be Basic:

Solo 1: = Using Stat Armor
... Stats: 75 (SC) | 95 (HC) Vitality / 75 Intelligence : Rest of the points towards your MQ Weapon Ratio Highest Stat
... Weapon: 100% Enhanced Effect or more Club. (Heavy Weapons refer to Guardian Heavy Weapon build)
... Armor: Chain or Plate: Strength Stat with either Intelligence or Heal Mastery combination is best, but Strength Stat will suffice ensure Tier level is the same as toon level
... Main Charm: Strength Stat with either Intelligence or Heal Mastery combination is best, but Strength Stat or 50+ Intelligence will suffice
... Acc Slot: 85% Enhanced Effect or more healing type charm. Preferably Focus or Regular, otherwise 100% enhanced effect or more Wild Heal.
... Abilities: You can choose which ones to increase first and which needs improvement after level 55
... ... Salvation 20% / 36% / 48% / 58% / 66% = 5 points = Level 20
... ... Retribution 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% / 46% / 51% = 7 points = level 55 including Salvation
... END NOTE: if you are finding it hard to heal more life than damage being taken, either increase Salvation or switch your Heal charm to Main Slot ONLY if you are NOT using +50 or more Intelligence in main slot, as it won't make a difference in heal capacity.

Solo 2: = Using Enhanced Effect Armor
... Stats: 75 (SC) | 95 (HC) Vitality / 75 Intelligence : Rest of the points towards your MQ Weapon Ratio Highest Stat
... Weapon: 100% Enhanced Effect or more Club. (Heavy Weapons refer to Guardian Heavy Weapon build & Armor info below)
... Armor: Chain or Plate: 100% Enhanced Effect or more. Combination of Strength / Intelligence or Heal Mastery is best. Ensure Tier level is the same as toon level
... Main Charm: Strength Stat with either Intelligence or Heal Mastery combination is best, but Strength Stat or 50+ Intelligence will suffice
... Acc Slot: 85% Enhanced Effect or more healing type charm. Preferably Focus or Regular, otherwise 100% enhanced effect or more Wild Heal.
... Abilities: You can choose which ones to increase first and which needs improvement after level 55
... ... Salvation 20% / 36% / 48% / 58% / 66% = 5 points = Level 20
... ... Powerstrike 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% / 40% / 46% / 51% = 7 points = level 55 including Salvation
... END NOTE: if you are finding it hard to heal more life than damage being taken, either increase Salvation or switch your Heal charm to Main Slot ONLY if you are NOT using +50 or more Intelligence in main slot, as it won't make a difference in heal capacity.
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I have to come back to this if I want to save all the information and add on to it.
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Apr 5 2019 05:19am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 5 Apr 2019 03:46)
There isn't a specific Guardian guide, there are informational advice referring to the Guardian in both of my Guides.
Basic Hardcore / Softcore Melee / Tank guide and Solo Hardcore Heavy Weapon thread:

Guardian: Best Build Option as Tank / Healer based on starting Vitality / Intelligence stats as well as Abilities being healing.
Restricted to using Chain / Plate and Healing Charms ONLY
/QUOTE]



That,s the problem. His gear and skills are very limiteds. But the guide is nice 10/10.

This post was edited by tigre900 on Apr 5 2019 05:20am
izParagonzi
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Apr 5 2019 02:15pm
Quote (tigre900 @ Apr 6 2019 12:19am)
That,s the problem. His gear and skills are very limiteds. But the guide is nice 10/10.


Yes limited, that is why I set up the guide towards specific build and items... I just noticed I made a mistake in Abilities:

Abilities: Full Group 2:
... Multistrike: 06% / 12% / 17% / 22% / 27% / 31% / 35% / 39% (total 5 8 points = level 35 achieved)
... Knockdown: 10% / 19% / 27% / 34% (total 5 4 points = level 55 achieved with Multistrike)
... Note : You can opt for only Multistrike = 52% @ level 55

Will have to fix this when the guide is completed.
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Apr 5 2019 02:18pm
Why are we talking about Guardian in a thread that was made for Rogue. *poke*

izParagonzi
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Apr 5 2019 02:50pm
Quote (Shannon @ Apr 6 2019 09:18am)
Why are we talking about Guardian in a thread that was made for Rogue. *poke*


:D I love Guardians and could not resist responding to post on page 1, luckily the guardian information is on page 2 and basically ignored from those reading the relevant information on page 1.

Mind you, there might be a format that JanMcCrank likes to use for the future guides.

EDIT: also have to find a way to add in "Whistle" / "Explore" into the guide information.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Apr 5 2019 02:52pm
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