d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Democrat Division Megathread
Prev18889909192205Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 45,817
Joined: Jan 20 2010
Gold: 22,186.49
Oct 19 2019 08:02pm
So Hillary thinks Jill Stein is a 'Russian asset' and said the same about Tulsi Gabbard with different phrasing.

And I'm supposed to forget that Bill Clinton flew to Moscow and had a private off-the-books meeting with Putin at his country estate, and then was promptly handed $500,000 by Putin's cronies for a speech where he urged investment in Uranium One. Which was simultaneously sending $8.35 million to the Clinton Foundation, while having its sensitive energy contracts in US markets face approval from Hillary Clinton and figurehead posts that were just her cronies. And not only did they approve it, but the IC magically swept under the rug the whistleblower complaints about their corruption and froze the investigation for years until the deals were done. But it was totally not corrupt and never anything but a conspiracy theory, because nobody can prove an explicit quid pro quo existed between the businessmen handing the Clintons millions of dollars while openly discussing how it was a bribe for securing this contract to the whistleblower, and the oversight controlled both formally and politically by the heir apparent to the throne who was at the same time organizing her secret total control of the democratic party apparatus for the next election. Which of course was another conspiracy theory over Clinton's shadow influence, up until it was proven true by Donna Brazile.
Member
Posts: 53,137
Joined: Sep 2 2004
Gold: 57.00
Oct 19 2019 10:09pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 19 Oct 2019 22:02)
So Hillary thinks Jill Stein is a 'Russian asset' and said the same about Tulsi Gabbard with different phrasing.

And I'm supposed to forget that Bill Clinton flew to Moscow and had a private off-the-books meeting with Putin at his country estate, and then was promptly handed $500,000 by Putin's cronies for a speech where he urged investment in Uranium One. Which was simultaneously sending $8.35 million to the Clinton Foundation, while having its sensitive energy contracts in US markets face approval from Hillary Clinton and figurehead posts that were just her cronies. And not only did they approve it, but the IC magically swept under the rug the whistleblower complaints about their corruption and froze the investigation for years until the deals were done. But it was totally not corrupt and never anything but a conspiracy theory, because nobody can prove an explicit quid pro quo existed between the businessmen handing the Clintons millions of dollars while openly discussing how it was a bribe for securing this contract to the whistleblower, and the oversight controlled both formally and politically by the heir apparent to the throne who was at the same time organizing her secret total control of the democratic party apparatus for the next election. Which of course was another conspiracy theory over Clinton's shadow influence, up until it was proven true by Donna Brazile.

don’t forget the failed reset button fiasco which fasttracked russia to their current global geopolitical status

Pres Obama must have been beside himself wondering how he scraped a primary victory against HRC in 2008 (and this person had political aims 14 years prior) only to find out after he made her Sec of State that she couldn’t use google translate
Member
Posts: 45,817
Joined: Jan 20 2010
Gold: 22,186.49
Oct 19 2019 10:31pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 19 2019 11:09pm)
don’t forget the failed reset button fiasco which fasttracked russia to their current global geopolitical status

Pres Obama must have been beside himself wondering how he scraped a primary victory against HRC in 2008 (and this person had political aims 14 years prior) only to find out after he made her Sec of State that she couldn’t use google translate


Obama made a lot of bad mistakes, but making Hillary his SoS was the really bad mistake that set in motion the worst mistakes
Member
Posts: 33,452
Joined: Oct 9 2008
Gold: 2,617.52
Oct 19 2019 11:10pm
Run pls Hillary
Member
Posts: 1,697
Joined: Mar 16 2009
Gold: 0.00
Oct 20 2019 02:12am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 20 2019 12:31am)
Obama made a lot of bad mistakes, but making Hillary his SoS was the really bad mistake that set in motion the worst mistakes


True its really not up for argument that Obama messed up badly there.
Member
Posts: 45,817
Joined: Jan 20 2010
Gold: 22,186.49
Oct 20 2019 02:44am
Quote (GodSmiter @ Oct 20 2019 03:12am)
True its really not up for argument that Obama messed up badly there.


He was nothing if not consistent. His decision making was marked by cynical pragmatism that tried to carefully thread the needle and then fucked up every time. Bringing Hilldog onto the administration was supposed to make sure he had the neoliberal establishment behind him instead of against him, avoiding any divisions from the bitter primary battle. As Johnson said, better to have her inside the tent pissing out then outside pissing in. And as with most Obama failures, we have the benefit of hindsight knowing how it went wrong, and the blind spot of not knowing if the alternative was worse. If he hadn't brought her on, maybe we'd all be talking about what a big mistake that was as a schism erupted. Instead we had her frothing at the mouth to saber rattle at our enemies, our allies, our frenemies, other politicians and squirrels in the back yard.
Member
Posts: 48,544
Joined: Jun 18 2006
Gold: 5,016.77
Oct 20 2019 03:03am
Quote (excellence @ Oct 20 2019 12:09am)
don’t forget the failed reset button fiasco which fasttracked russia to their current global geopolitical status

Pres Obama must have been beside himself wondering how he scraped a primary victory against HRC in 2008 (and this person had political aims 14 years prior) only to find out after he made her Sec of State that she couldn’t use google translate


Obama made some progress with the Russian relationship before Putin came back into the presidency. Putin's fundamentally hostile to the West, there's basically nothing we can do to change that. He'll continue to act as a spoiler in world affairs in a desperate attempt to keep Russia relevant. And Trump's weakness on the world stage helps him.
Member
Posts: 51,145
Joined: May 26 2005
Gold: 4,400.67
Oct 20 2019 03:11am
Quote (IceMage @ 20 Oct 2019 11:03)
Obama made some progress with the Russian relationship before Putin came back into the presidency. Putin's fundamentally hostile to the West, there's basically nothing we can do to change that. He'll continue to act as a spoiler in world affairs in a desperate attempt to keep Russia relevant. And Trump's weakness on the world stage helps him.


As did Obama's. The underlying issue of all the current woes is the gigantic mistake that was the invasion in Iraq. It threw the entire Middle East into turmoil, it turned the American public sour on foreign wars/interventions, which is the root of both Obama's and Trump's 'weakness' on the world stage, it laid the foundation for the Arab Spring and ISIS and the European refugee crisis and so on and on.
Member
Posts: 53,137
Joined: Sep 2 2004
Gold: 57.00
Oct 20 2019 08:47pm


:rolleyes:
Member
Posts: 53,137
Joined: Sep 2 2004
Gold: 57.00
Oct 27 2019 06:38pm
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/467659-former-adviser-clinton-thinks-god-put-her-on-the-earth-to-be-president



lmfao

this is the preferred candidate of neocons, swamp worshippers, election and math-deniers, and fake religious people

This post was edited by excellence on Oct 27 2019 06:39pm
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev18889909192205Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll