d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate >
Poll > Non Christian Opinions On Jesus
Prev1101112
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
  Guests cannot view or vote in polls. Please register or login.
Member
Posts: 64,656
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 260.11
Feb 20 2019 08:17pm
Quote (ReturnFormer @ Feb 20 2019 08:13pm)
yes, belief and faith are basically synonyms.

dunno why thats any less useful than your twisted interpretation of it. there are tons of words in english that have equivalent synonyms, that doesnt make them useless. nor can chrstianity redefine it as they like. if their criteria for entrance to heaven is belief in the resurrection, then by definition jesus cant get it.

if the criteria is something else, thats a different story.


Your definition of belief isn't how most people use the word, so just be aware you're going to have this problem with more people than just me.

You can define words however you want, the important thing is that the message isn't lost. In the case of "if Jesus can go to heaven" he's exempted from their rules on how to go to heaven since, ya know, he is God incarnate and is the one who actually decides. Even if that wasn't the case if by "belief" they mean "think its true", then he's covered. And since they do, he is.

Member
Posts: 24,802
Joined: Mar 7 2010
Gold: 22,202.22
Feb 20 2019 08:34pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 20 2019 09:17pm)
Your definition of belief isn't how most people use the word, so just be aware you're going to have this problem with more people than just me.

You can define words however you want, the important thing is that the message isn't lost. In the case of "if Jesus can go to heaven" he's exempted from their rules on how to go to heaven since, ya know, he is God incarnate and is the one who actually decides. Even if that wasn't the case if by "belief" they mean "think its true", then he's covered. And since they do, he is.


dunno who youre hanging out with that they dont know what a belief is, but everyone i know knows the proper definition of it. but anecdotal evidence is meaningless anyway, the words means what it means. regardless of what you think... ;)

jesus being exempt from the requirement is a valid argument, although youd have to prove it. thats the route you should have taken to start, rather than arguing wrong semantics for three days.
Member
Posts: 64,656
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 260.11
Feb 20 2019 08:39pm
Quote (ReturnFormer @ Feb 20 2019 08:34pm)
dunno who youre hanging out with that they dont know what a belief is, but everyone i know knows the proper definition of it. but anecdotal evidence is meaningless anyway, the words means what it means. regardless of what you think... ;)

jesus being exempt from the requirement is a valid argument, although youd have to prove it. thats the route you should have taken to start, rather than arguing wrong semantics for three days.


Did you really need me to tell you that Jesus is exempt? Do you even know the most fundamental thing about modern Christianity?
Member
Posts: 24,802
Joined: Mar 7 2010
Gold: 22,202.22
Feb 20 2019 09:07pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 20 2019 09:39pm)
Did you really need me to tell you that Jesus is exempt? Do you even know the most fundamental thing about modern Christianity?


it not as simple as you think. yes, hes supposedly the son of G-d or an aspect of G-d, but hes also a man. who says the man portion of him couldnt go to hell?
Member
Posts: 64,656
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 260.11
Feb 20 2019 09:20pm
Quote (ReturnFormer @ Feb 20 2019 09:07pm)
it not as simple as you think. yes, hes supposedly the son of G-d or an aspect of G-d, but hes also a man. who says the man portion of him couldnt go to hell?


The "man portion"? Their mythos isn't greek or roman where you can burn away the human parts of a demigod and leave only the God parts.
Member
Posts: 24,802
Joined: Mar 7 2010
Gold: 22,202.22
Feb 20 2019 09:38pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 20 2019 10:20pm)
The "man portion"? Their mythos isn't greek or roman where you can burn away the human parts of a demigod and leave only the God parts.


so youre saying if the man part of jesus went to hell the god part would, too...? the plot thickens...
Member
Posts: 21,896
Joined: Mar 3 2007
Gold: 7.77
Feb 20 2019 09:42pm
Jesus is a pretty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Feb 20 2019 09:42pm
Member
Posts: 38,640
Joined: Apr 1 2007
Gold: 88.21
Feb 20 2019 09:44pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 20 2019 08:42pm)
Jesus is a pretty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything.


Agreed.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1101112
Add Reply New Topic New Poll