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Dec 16 2018 06:01pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/15/iranian-asylum-seeker-raped-17-year-old-spared-deportation-due/

The UK government has opened the door to an entirely new form of immigration loophole, allowing islamic migrants to be exempt from deportation by feigning apostasy. After a 38 year old Iranian asylum seeker was arrested and imprisoned for raping a 17 year old girl and scheduled to be deported back to Iran, he simply faked a conversion to Christianity on twitter. And even though a judge acknowledged that there is ample evidence his 'conversion' was a paper thin fraud, by making such social media posts he has endangered himself were he to return to Iran, where he could face persecution regardless of his actual beliefs. Like an emotionally abusive ex-girlfriend threatening to kill herself, the UK has given muslims an option to exempt themselves from deportations by 'endangering' themselves via apostasy / blasphemy / etc.
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Dec 16 2018 06:05pm
just deport him to France like the recent Strasbourg jihadist was
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Dec 16 2018 06:57pm
A convicted rapist in my opinion has forfeited any right to protection from third party sources, like the government of his country of origin.

Want protection in Europe and face the death penalty in your home country? Well, in this situation, it is NOT too much to ask that you dont go around raping girls or committing other kinds of felonies.



So the core issue isnt even that this particular judge deliberately played along with a fake apostasy case. No, the issue is that the hypothetical prosecution in a convicted felon's country of origin would exempt him from deportation in the first place.

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A convicted rapist in my opinion has forfeited any right to protection from third party sources, like the government of his country of origin.

Want protection in Europe and face the death penalty in your home country? Well, in this situation, it is NOT too much to ask that you dont go around raping girls or committing other kinds of felonies.



So the core issue isnt even that this particular judge deliberately played along with a fake apostasy case. No, the issue is that the hypothetical prosecution in a convicted felon's country of origin would exempt him from deportation in the first place.


i'm with you except for the part where you suggest the judge 'played along' (as if he had a choice or even condoned the behaviour) when clearly he acknowledged that it's likely fake, but made a ruling according to current law. the latter is the problem, not judges that don't go rogue because they consider their personal feelings more important than their job. the judge even explained in his ruling that it doesn't matter if the conversion was fake or not since the threat it created was real - but you still didn't get it...

that said, those scumbags should just be deported without a second thought. someone who commits such a crime in a country clearly doesn't deserve asylum there.
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Quote (fender @ Dec 16 2018 09:14pm)
i'm with you except for the part where you suggest the judge 'played along' (as if he had a choice or even condoned the behaviour) when clearly he acknowledged that it's likely fake, but made a ruling according to current law. the latter is the problem, not judges that don't go rogue because they consider their personal feelings more important than their job. the judge even explained in his ruling that it doesn't matter if the conversion was fake or not since the threat it created was real - but you still didn't get it...

that said, those scumbags should just be deported without a second thought. someone who commits such a crime in a country clearly doesn't deserve asylum there.


If the judge wasnt a phony he would have required proof like the testimony of a minister. Its far leftist douche baggery and a media cover up par usual.
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Dec 16 2018 07:36pm
Quote (fender @ 17 Dec 2018 02:14)
i'm with you except for the part where you suggest the judge 'played along' (as if he had a choice or even condoned the behaviour) when clearly he acknowledged that it's likely fake, but made a ruling according to current law. the latter is the problem, not judges that don't go rogue because they consider their personal feelings more important than their job. the judge even explained in his ruling that it doesn't matter if the conversion was fake or not since the threat it created was real - but you still didn't get it...

that said, those scumbags should just be deported without a second thought. someone who commits such a crime in a country clearly doesn't deserve asylum there.


The judge acknowledged that the apostasy was fake, but went ahead and gave the guy a pass anyway by declaring that even the faked apostasy would put the guy in enough danger to warrant a protection from deportation.

What exactly makes a british judge qualified to assess whether a tweet would really put someone's life in sufficient danger in Iran?! He didnt have to let the guy off the hook that easily, but he did.

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You guys are too harsh, at least they passed brexit
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 17 Dec 2018 02:22)
If the judge wasnt a phony he would have required proof like the testimony of a minister. Its far leftist douche baggery and a media cover up par usual.


if you were even the slightest bit intelligent you'd be utterly embarrassed by that post. both the article as well as my post that you quoted specifically mention the judge's acknowledgment of the shady nature of that scumbag's conversion - but also the fact that it's IRRELEVANT since the threat it created was real. again, the law he refers to does not specify you can't be deported if you're christian, but that you can't be deported if your life would be in danger.
as to the 'cover up' narrative, maybe read the very first post again and then google 'the daily telegraph'.

ofc the other hack now has to pivot to something idiotic like claiming the judge can't assess whether 'a tweet' (again, actually reading the article would help you guys to avoid such obvious misrepresentations) can do that, in order to maintain his original claim of a judge who 'played along', when in reality it's blatantly obvious to every sane person that the judge didn't have much of a choice and seems to disapprove (based on his personal evaluation and his explanation). the law has to be changed and then you will see judges rule according to it - but i guess that doesn't fit into your retarded little 'leftist activist judges who for some mysterious reason have great sympathy for rapists' narrative...
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Quote (fender @ Dec 16 2018 09:05pm)
if you were even the slightest bit intelligent you'd be utterly embarrassed by that post. both the article as well as my post that you quoted specifically mention the judge's acknowledgment of the shady nature of that scumbag's conversion - but also the fact that it's IRRELEVANT since the threat it created was real. again, the law he refers to does not specify you can't be deported if you're christian, but that you can't be deported if your life would be in danger.
as to the 'cover up' narrative, maybe read the very first post again and then google 'the daily telegraph'.

ofc the other hack now has to pivot to something idiotic like claiming the judge can't assess whether 'a tweet' (again, actually reading the article would help you guys to avoid such obvious misrepresentations) can do that, in order to maintain his original claim of a judge who 'played along', when in reality it's blatantly obvious to every sane person that the judge didn't have much of a choice and seems to disapprove (based on his personal evaluation and his explanation). the law has to be changed and then you will see judges rule according to it - but i guess that doesn't fit into your retarded little 'leftist activist judges who for some mysterious reason have great sympathy for rapists' narrative...


Will the law be changed? Let's make a bet.

If we all agree than Iran is a human rights violation waiting to happen, one does wonder why we're so adamant that the Iran deal is "good" for Western civilization. It seems we all agree that they're barbarians willing to kill someone (albeit a rapist) for a tweet.
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