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Nov 20 2018 07:18am
Quote (vasya @ Nov 20 2018 07:09am)
For zvz cruel erep 2soc Rod give more avg dmg then perf grief ba


grief outclasses even godly fools eth+skills rods;

Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 4 2018 07:00pm)
a cookie cutter perfect gear fort exile zealot has about 50k defense. With grief & angelics, hits for 10.7k avg with 22k ar. Using http://oi61.tinypic.com/jrxt3q.jpg as a fools, it would hit 7.5k with 31k ar
against 50k defense at the same level, 22k ar is 30.56% CTH, 31k is 38.27% CTH.
so grief would deal 3270 damage*CTH ignoring blocking/cb/ow/etc, fools would deal 2870 damage*CTH
and mind, that's not factoring in the -12.5% defense

now maybe the math changes with an actually optimal setup like a visionary ds helm instead of standard pubtrash cookiecutter, but grief generally beats even godly fools


you can throw EDC or 450% eth rep rod or 300% fools eth rep rod or razors edge or wirts leg at it, grief is going to win every time because grief is overpowered
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Feb 17 2019 03:08pm
HAHA i love this topic man! right on eth death cleaver really doesn't get the respect it deserves at times. I remember the good ol days when wealthy zealers used this and even when edc was used as an incentive , i think as a tournament zeal prize or something.

Huge zealer fan here too man! Good to see people still play zealers cause they do date back to the days of diablo 1
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Feb 17 2019 03:24pm
This game needs No RW duels without going full Classic/.09 . I'd enjoy the hell out of that.
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Feb 17 2019 07:48pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Nov 9 2018 07:16pm)
The low value probably has something to do with the fact that ZvZ is a boring, trash matchup for boring, trash players.

No demand for shit build = no demand for shit item


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