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Oct 22 2018 01:33pm
Quote (Secksii @ Oct 22 2018 01:49pm)
What benchmark are you "watching?"
Gpu is an upgrade
Monitor is an upgrade
Sirtec>cwt
Overall gaming experience is an upgrade.
Ur logic, he should get 580 so he can use freesync on a 75hz monitor? Yet ur concerned about futureproofing... when he can literally get A 1060 with 144hz monitor.
8400 is the best gaming chip for its cost, idk why u bring up cpu perf for cost when I'm talking about gaming builds the OP is look for. Also in his country, 2600x costs more than 8400.
Even the links yup links has 8400 beating 2600x/2700x in games. Not sure if you're trolling at this point.

I'm forced to think that you haven't really experienced what it's like to game on either chips.


You clearly missed the part where I said OP changed his build after he posted. Initially it was rx 580 4gb and an LG 75hz freesync monitor, lower quality PSU, etc...
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Oct 22 2018 02:05pm
Quote (zell1luk @ Oct 22 2018 02:33pm)
You clearly missed the part where I said OP changed his build after he posted. Initially it was rx 580 4gb and an LG 75hz freesync monitor, lower quality PSU, etc...


actually here is a higher game average that puts 2600 above 8400 in gaming but using faster ram which isnt apples to apples but really close enough considering intels numbers really arent going to boost that far from faster ram
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Oct 22 2018 02:11pm
Quote (zell1luk @ 22 Oct 2018 12:33)
You clearly missed the part where I said OP changed his build after he posted. Initially it was rx 580 4gb and an LG 75hz freesync monitor, lower quality PSU, etc...


You clearly missed the entire point of this conversation then. It doesn't matter what he changed in his build as that's given since he's the one asking for help for a budget gaming build. His build and your build are similar other than the 8gb ram & monitor he supposedly changed to the curved one.
I'm comparing your build to mine, am i not seeing your build correctly? because it shows 580, lg 75hz monitor, and a lower quality psu on my screen. I still want to see the benchmarks you were referring to earlier as well

I'll try make it more clear
1060 6gb strix > 580 4gb
xg24 1080p 144hz > lg 1080p 75hz
gold psu sirtec oem > bronze cwt oem

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Oct 22 2018 02:19pm
Quote (yupitsmeh @ 22 Oct 2018 13:05)
actually here is a higher game average that puts 2600 above 8400 in gaming but using faster ram which isnt apples to apples but really close enough considering intels numbers really arent going to boost that far from faster ram


100% agree, 8400 don't need 3200+ ram or OC. Also it's not always about the extra max FPS, it's more about far less dips and stable/higher min FPS.
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Oct 22 2018 03:37pm
Quote (Secksii @ Oct 22 2018 03:11pm)
You clearly missed the entire point of this conversation then. It doesn't matter what he changed in his build as that's given since he's the one asking for help for a budget gaming build. His build and your build are similar other than the 8gb ram & monitor he supposedly changed to the curved one.
I'm comparing your build to mine, am i not seeing your build correctly? because it shows 580, lg 75hz monitor, and a lower quality psu on my screen. I still want to see the benchmarks you were referring to earlier as well

I'll try make it more clear
1060 6gb strix > 580 4gb
xg24 1080p 144hz > lg 1080p 75hz
gold psu sirtec oem > bronze cwt oem


I agree with all that. I'll have to double check what parts list k linked when get home from work. I'll also link the benchmark video I'm referring to.
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Oct 22 2018 06:03pm
Just read all this sorry, while I'm buying the computer for gaming it will become also a work computer when it needs to be. I work in IT and run a fair few things at once so the ryzen seems the best overall for me I think?

As for GPU I'm flexible. Is it worth going a 580 and getting a free syn monitor or just going nvidia and getting a 75hz monitor? Ideally I'd like 27" because it's what I', used to but I don't think card or budget will allow it?

I've mucked around on pcpartpicker and it all seems to pretty much even out after shipping costs.
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Just read all this sorry, while I'm buying the computer for gaming it will become also a work computer when it needs to be. I work in IT and run a fair few things at once so the ryzen seems the best overall for me I think?

As for GPU I'm flexible. Is it worth going a 580 and getting a free syn monitor or just going nvidia and getting a 75hz monitor? Ideally I'd like 27" because it's what I', used to but I don't think card or budget will allow it?

I've mucked around on pcpartpicker and it all seems to pretty much even out after shipping costs.


Unless you do a lot of compiling with programs 100kk lines or more, the core difference won't do a ton. More ram would benefit you more

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MvVssZ

This is what I would go with, if you're budget allows, bump the RAM up to 2x 8gb of 3200mhz.
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Oct 22 2018 10:37pm
Quote (zell1luk @ Oct 23 2018 09:44am)
Unless you do a lot of compiling with programs 100kk lines or more, the core difference won't do a ton. More ram would benefit you more

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MvVssZ

This is what I would go with, if you're budget allows, bump the RAM up to 2x 8gb of 3200mhz.


I like this, if only it was a 2600x but I can just wack a dirty overclock on it.

Not a fan of the HDD though.

This post was edited by batanga on Oct 22 2018 10:38pm
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Oct 23 2018 06:51am
Quote (batanga @ Oct 22 2018 11:37pm)
I like this, if only it was a 2600x but I can just wack a dirty overclock on it.

Not a fan of the HDD though.


The hdd is for price/GB. With ryzen 2000 series, you can use storeMI which uses your SSD as a giant cache for your HDD. Essentially you get SSD speed with HDD capacity.
If you just want 2 SSDs, go ahead and swap it out. Also I know the 2600x seems more appealing, but it's like $80 more aud than the base 2600 for a slightly higher factory clock.

This post was edited by zell1luk on Oct 23 2018 06:52am
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