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Oct 19 2018 08:34pm
Quote (AlChErMeS @ Oct 19 2018 01:59pm)
what about exile vs upd zaka?


Hoz is more damage
More damage = more life stolen per hit

Exile is (feanur is have a stroke when I say this) safer on builds that don't use wand.

Grief beats lw on perfect setups but lw beats grief on cheap setups
The obvious problem with that is that lw costs so much that it makes no sense to use it on a budget setup
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Oct 19 2018 08:48pm
Quote (lilith0 @ Oct 19 2018 08:06pm)
Exile helps with casting the first lifetap if you don't want to use a lt wand


Quote (SuperButt420 @ Oct 19 2018 10:34pm)
Exile is (feanur is have a stroke when I say this) safer on builds that don't use wand.


So you guys would say one source of life tap isn't enough? I've only actually used lifetap wands on super budget smiters. Past smiters (and well most melee builds I've uberd) has done fine with 1 source.
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Oct 19 2018 09:11pm
with 1 source of lt there's a small chance that life tap doesn't proc soon enough. With 2 sources there's a much smaller chance.
here's the case against exile tho:
If, for you, exile is expensive, then buying exile isn't worth it;
if, for you, exile isn't expensive, then your UT smiter should be solid enough to not have to worry and you can use hoz and be faster
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Oct 19 2018 10:44pm
actually i'm geared in this way:

grief + upd zaka
guillaume
hl wrath
tdgod
goblin
gloves ias - ll - cb
dwarf and raven

using a coh, but i look at some build, someone use forty, someone treachery, someone enigma
what's the best choise of armour and why?
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Oct 19 2018 11:08pm
Quote (AlChErMeS @ Oct 19 2018 11:44pm)
actually i'm geared in this way:

grief + upd zaka
guillaume
hl wrath
tdgod
goblin
gloves ias - ll - cb
dwarf and raven

using a coh, but i look at some build, someone use forty, someone treachery, someone enigma
what's the best choise of armour and why?


Grief + fanatism already reach max ias bp, highlord is useless and your gloves are too. I wouldnt use tgod either but w/e. Fort is the best to kill fast enigma is the best if you farm organs since you can tele to boss
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Oct 19 2018 11:11pm
Quote (AlChErMeS @ Oct 19 2018 09:44pm)
actually i'm geared in this way:

grief + upd zaka
guillaume
hl wrath
tdgod
goblin
gloves ias - ll - cb
dwarf and raven

using a coh, but i look at some build, someone use forty, someone treachery, someone enigma
what's the best choise of armour and why?


fort more dmg- enigma switch if u have to get organs yourself
I don't think hl gets u to a new ias bp- maras and others are better
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Oct 19 2018 11:19pm
Quote (Hyperdimension @ Oct 20 2018 06:08am)
Grief + fanatism already reach max ias bp, highlord is useless and your gloves are too. I wouldnt use tgod either but w/e. Fort is the best to kill fast enigma is the best if you farm organs since you can tele to boss


what's w/e?
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Oct 19 2018 11:23pm
Quote (AlChErMeS @ Oct 20 2018 12:19am)
what's w/e?


Whatever*
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Oct 20 2018 12:01am
Quote (Oilerfan @ Oct 19 2018 09:48pm)
So you guys would say one source of life tap isn't enough? I've only actually used lifetap wands on super budget smiters. Past smiters (and well most melee builds I've uberd) has done fine with 1 source.


Dracs have such a low cast chance that I still want wand or a second source, especially on hardcore

You lose more damage by going lw over grief than you do by going exile over hoz

I also want to mention that there's one user who swears astreon has faster clear speed than grief in ubers but I haven't tested it yet. Been putting it off because my only uber chars are on hardcore right now
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Oct 20 2018 12:03am
Also your build has no open wounds please fix that

The ubers heal something like 6000 hp per second if you don't make them bleed
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