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Oct 17 2018 05:31pm
Quote (IceMage @ 17 Oct 2018 18:14)
What is the neoliberal left? I see Trump supporters using that label all the time... and I don't know for sure what they mean by it.

it’s you

a loser section of the nu-lefties who love to back rinos and miserable lefties that are addicted to losing and do nothing ever positive for the country. Being a lefty is fine but backing those candidates is bad, better off with Pres Slick Willie (dot com boom) and Pres Obama (who you opposed like a racist for 8 years only to go bottoms up for Monica Lewinsky’s ex-boyfriend’s wife :lol: )

e: reported, btw

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so republicans now agree to get money out of politics asap?

because there are PLENTY of candidates on the left not accepting ANY corporate donations already...



No they just take money from advocacy groups run by billionaires.
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Oct 17 2018 06:53pm
Quote (FGdumpster @ Oct 18 2018 11:26am)
No they just take money from advocacy groups run by billionaires.


So what?
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Oct 17 2018 07:59pm
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No they just take money from advocacy groups run by billionaires.


Dollars = words now. More dollars = more words.

It's the antidemocratic bias in capitalism.

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Oct 20 2018 08:33am
why is liberal groups spending a lot of money on education a problem to you?

and what if any part of this dark money documentary - assuming you've watched it - is deceptive?
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Quote (duffman316 @ Oct 20 2018 09:33am)
why is liberal groups spending a lot of money on education a problem to you?

and what if any part of this dark money documentary - assuming you've watched it - is deceptive?


They don't want to fix public education because it doesn't Advanced their Charter Schools narrative.
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Oct 20 2018 09:21am
Quote (duffman316 @ Oct 20 2018 10:33am)
why is liberal groups spending a lot of money on education a problem to you?

and what if any part of this dark money documentary - assuming you've watched it - is deceptive?



Quid pro quo doesnt equal “for education”
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Oct 20 2018 10:21am
Quote (duffman316 @ Oct 20 2018 07:33am)
why is liberal groups spending a lot of money on education a problem to you?

and what if any part of this dark money documentary - assuming you've watched it - is deceptive?


If you can't understand what "education" means in this context then honestly I can't help you. It's deceptive in the fact that not only Republicans use money to sway politics in their favor, in fact, Democrats throw much more money into politics.

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They don't want to fix public education because it doesn't Advanced their Charter Schools narrative.


The US spends 12,300 per student (as of 2014) on education. 4th highest in the world. More than Belgium, UK, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Germany, Netherlands & Canada, SK & Japan
spending/student in that order.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp

If only you were a critical thinker, you'd look at statistics and the research out there and realize what's actually holding progress back. Instead, you parrot same old NPC platitudes.



Watch this then get back at me and we can have an adult discussion.


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If you can't understand what "education" means in this context then honestly I can't help you. It's deceptive in the fact that not only Republicans use money to sway politics in their favor, in fact, Democrats throw much more money into politics.



The US spends 12,300 per student (as of 2014) on education. 4th highest in the world. More than Belgium, UK, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Germany, Netherlands & Canada, SK & Japan
spending/student in that order.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp

If only you were a critical thinker, you'd look at statistics and the research out there and realize what's actually holding progress back. Instead, you parrot same old NPC platitudes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTUMxqNu6KY

Watch this then get back at me and we can have an adult discussion.


So we're the number one GDP in the world per capita yet we spend the 4th on education.

You always tend to reinforce my arguments with your arguments against them.

Making sure that schools are funded well does not hurt them.
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Oct 20 2018 10:58am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 20 2018 11:21am)
If you can't understand what "education" means in this context then honestly I can't help you. It's deceptive in the fact that not only Republicans use money to sway politics in their favor, in fact, Democrats throw much more money into politics.



The US spends 12,300 per student (as of 2014) on education. 4th highest in the world. More than Belgium, UK, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Germany, Netherlands & Canada, SK & Japan
spending/student in that order.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp

If only you were a critical thinker, you'd look at statistics and the research out there and realize what's actually holding progress back. Instead, you parrot same old NPC platitudes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTUMxqNu6KY

Watch this then get back at me and we can have an adult discussion.


looks like it's a case study about mining regulations and money in montana and you're upset that they didn't examine a situation with democrats involved instead?
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Dark Money is a film that tracks the influence of money in contemporary American politics. Using the state of Montana as a primary case study, the film engages with the complex history that Montana state politics has with corporate influence in politics. Starting with the story of the Anaconda Copper Mining Company, Dark Money shows how the influence of mining corporations caused state legislators to relax mining regulations, which resulted in an environmental catastrophe in Butte, Montana, with problems that persist today. As a result, Montana banned big money in state politics as of 1912.[4] However, since the Citizens United decision, corporate interests and big money have made their way back on the scene in Montana and have become a growing national concern. The film traces the steps taken by Montana Attorney General (and now Governor) Steve Bullock to seek relief from campaign finance abuses at a time when the FEC was ground to a halt by the appointment of three new Republican members, headed by Don McGahn, who systemically blocked all enforcement of FEC regulations. In 2015, Montana reasserted its campaign finance sovereignty with passage of the Montana Disclose Act, which, by requiring full disclosure of contributors' names, removed the "dark" aspect of the Big Money influence on their campaigns.[5] John S. Adams of the Montana Free Press plays a central role in the film as an investigative journalist who has been tracking state politics and "following the money" for several years. Adams has reported on everything from the role of the American Tradition Partnership (formerly known as Western Tradition Partnership) funds in the shaping of state election laws[6] to the illegal political activities of a "right to work" PAC in Montana as well.[7] The film follows John S. Adam's work as a reporter, but it also includes interviews from other prominent figures in Montana state politics and those involved in the movement to examine and limit the influence of dark money in politics.

Director Kimberly Reed explains that she was motivated to make the film because the way to understand any public issue is to understand what guides it. “The first thing you have to look at is the money that’s fueling that issue,” she explains. “Just by following that money, you can tell a lot about the powers-that-be behind it.”[8]


also there's something ironic about bringing up the npc meme while your response to a video about money in politics that paints republicans in montana badly can be summed up as "democrats bad"
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