Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 14 2018 07:58pm)
Sorry, did not read the removed part, but, I will tell you how I did my test (keeping a record of each kill):
1. Record your EXACT experience points (not the bar, the character tab)
2. Kill ONE monster go town, check the points received (do this until you get an EP, double check the experience points are the same as when you left it)
3. Kill the EP, go town, check the points received (Now, correspond that amount to previous Normal monster kills)
4. Note: you will notice that the Experience points fluctuate, but, you will find an average after 100-1000 and notice it repeating.
5. Now you compare the results when you fall into a TD and repeat the process, you will in time drop in consecutive TDs, and you will find the same result.
Now, that is how I recorded and tested it, now, you gain more experience points compared to the past, this is noticeable on the XP BAR... you get around 1-2% per Normal Monster, you get around 2-4% per EP, now, you go down 1 TD, you notice that you gain around 2-3% per normal monster, and around 3-5% per EP... now if you fall into another TD within 5 moves, you will notice that you gain 2-3% per Normal monster, and 3-5% per EP, now let us say you fall into another TD within 3 minutes... you will notice that the XP BAR and gain does NOT change.
Now... as for experience gain in consecutive TDs, you don't get any, BUT, the monsters are harder, BUT, they drop higher tier.
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End Note: I have tested this in the past, I have also done only 2 days of testing with update and gave up. Hopefully I am wrong, but, when welling, you can gain MORE experience welling your Tier level and maybe 1 tier lower. Try it out for welling... only well TierVIII @ level 25-28 and watch your xp bar, I believe you get up to 8%.
Sorry that I didn't have time to read this until now Rex. I appreciate the time and effort you took to test this, but actually, I think you may be a little confused about monster level increases per trapdoor because you are testing something different from monster level when you are looking at experience gain per kill.
Edit: Actually I reread the part in red and it doesn't really agree with what you wrote earlier about monsters not going up in level with consecutive TDs, but it seems like maybe you can understand it based on the tier of the drops, since max tier of drops is based on monster level.
From my testing, experience gain per kill is drastically higher for monsters at or above the level of the character than it is for monsters even 1 level below the character. Keep in mind that for other members of the group to gain full benefits from the killed monster based on its level, the killer must also be any level equal to or below 5 levels above the level of the killed monster (which is another very simple test in duo mode). Your results agree well with mine when you show increases is experience gained per fight, on average, with increasing level of the monsters above the character level, but this result is both not as drastic as the effect of underleveled monsters, and also is affected by the experience cap per monster. Additionally, monster difficulty (which is not the same as monster level) further modifies the experience gain up to the experience cap. And yes, the experience cap for EPs is higher than it is for normal monsters. Your testing also seems to show that the experience cap for well bosses is higher than it is for EPs... that I do not know anything about yet, but it'll be nice to do my own testing at some point to see if I can confirm your results.
TL;DL experience gain stops scaling with increased monster level after a few levels, but the monster levels do continue to increase with additional trapdoors.
Quote (Phinigma @ Oct 15 2018 12:28am)
Just wanted to say thanks for all the great responses. Has been an enjoyable and informative read. If you guys have any other cool tidbits of knowledge to pass along please do! Just getting started in this game, (few months), and finding it enjoyable to learn as much about it as I can.
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I love trapdoors, and I'd love to help with info about them anytime I can, so it's been my genuine pleasure
Quote (SilentXer0 @ Oct 13 2018 12:49pm)
What facts are you basing this information on? Seems quite speculative to me.
Quote (McDavid @ Oct 14 2018 03:49am)
proof?
proof?
Lemme know if my response was adequate, or if you see any flaws in my logic... I'd like to think that I tested appropriately, but maybe you see something I missed
This post was edited by BWConformity on Oct 15 2018 08:10pm