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#11
Oct 5 2018 02:04pm
Actually should be higher frequency = higher energy. I swapped around frequency and wavelength in my post above.

Doesn't change the conclusion though.
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Oct 5 2018 03:10pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2018 02:01pm)
The lowest frequency I can find is 0.6GHz or 600MHz

Lower Frequency = Higher Energy = More Dangerous


A 600MHz photon would have an energy of 0.00024 kilojoules per mole of photons.

The two ways you could "cause cancer" would be to remove an electron from a molecule, or break a molecule apart.

To remove an electron typically takes thousands of kilojoules per mole, so we're off by a factor of 10000000 (photons don't work additively, so you can't just say what if you get hit by 10^7 photons)

To break a chemical bond you would need at least 100 kilojoules per mole, so we're still off by 1000000.


So you can rest easy that you won't get cancer from these towers, and that much is apparent from a simple back-of-the-envelope calculation.


Most proteins work based on hydrogen or even van der vaals bonds which are significantly weaker than chemical bonds. There could still be a significant impact on the human physiology

Im curious if there is any literature because long term high doses of EM radiation definitely arent safe.
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Oct 5 2018 03:12pm
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Most proteins work based on hydrogen or even van der vaals bonds which are significantly weaker than chemical bonds. There could still be a significant impact on the human physiology

Im curious if there is any literature because long term high doses of EM radiation definitely arent safe.


Those bonds break and reform trillions of times a second at room temperature. Also, you can't really couple to them to absorb radiation.

We are exposed to radiation all day, every day. These towers arent going to mess with you one bit. The frequency is the first thing to determine if its something to be concerned about, then intensity, but if its not in a dangerous energy level the intensity is irrelevant

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Oct 5 2018 06:31pm
It's not heat radiation it's the non thermal damages that's the issue

They constantly study the wrong aspects for a reason


This is weaponry. Minimize exposure

Be skeptical

Don't be dumb cause your not dropping dead.

Ever see someone go to a live AM broadcast!? They puke next to theassive radiation

People disable these towers and cellphone towers for a reason before they get near them to work on

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Oct 5 2018 08:17pm
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It's not heat radiation it's the non thermal damages that's the issue

They constantly study the wrong aspects for a reason


This is weaponry. Minimize exposure

Be skeptical

Don't be dumb cause your not dropping dead.

Ever see someone go to a live AM broadcast!? They puke next to theassive radiation

People disable these towers and cellphone towers for a reason before they get near them to work on


They disable the towers for a reason.....

because they have are electrical and the workers don't want to get electrocuted.

It really doesn't take a genius to do the CHM 101 calculations I just did to show they aren't going to cause health defects.



Also an old co-worker of mine used to have a home-made radio tower that would reach to Alaska (yes, he got in trouble with the FCC) and I never had issues being around it, and neither did he. Do some research from credible sources instead of buying into conspiracy theory nonsense.

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Oct 5 2018 09:21pm
Bump for awarenesse

Beware of close mindedness
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Oct 5 2018 09:22pm
Quote (eMptyBox @ Oct 5 2018 09:21pm)
Bump for awarenesse

Beware of close mindedness


Don't have such an open mind that your brain falls out.
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#18
Oct 5 2018 11:36pm
isn't the sun's radiation more deadly?

But one thing that has not been mentioned. Computer towers. My custom built computer emits a ton of radiation. I had to put that shit outside my room. That thing was giving me headaches.
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#19
Oct 6 2018 05:39am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2018 12:01pm)
The lowest frequency I can find is 0.6GHz or 600MHz

Lower Frequency = Higher Energy = More Dangerous


A 600MHz photon would have an energy of 0.00024 kilojoules per mole of photons.

The two ways you could "cause cancer" would be to remove an electron from a molecule, or break a molecule apart.

To remove an electron typically takes thousands of kilojoules per mole, so we're off by a factor of 10000000 (photons don't work additively, so you can't just say what if you get hit by 10^7 photons)

To break a chemical bond you would need at least 100 kilojoules per mole, so we're still off by 1000000.


So you can rest easy that you won't get cancer from these towers, and that much is apparent from a simple back-of-the-envelope calculation.



What about high frequencies causing misreads of DNA or of RNA, or a distortion in the process of DNA transcription into RNA?

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Oct 6 2018 06:22am
nvm

This post was edited by Chevaucheur on Oct 6 2018 06:25am
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