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#21
Oct 8 2018 01:27pm
Quote (Xasthur @ Oct 8 2018 10:57am)
>pretty easy
>After 2-4 runs you need to run another map

PICK ONE


You will get the same problem at Lair, UGS, and so on :D
The other Map needs <40 sec, some guys are wasting more time afkplaying in ho ~.~


Iam running flooded Mines atm, PingPong works fine - no need to run other Maps
Dens is ok, enough Map Drops to sustain.
div card Drops are shit :D




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#22
Oct 8 2018 04:13pm
Quote (Xasthur @ Oct 8 2018 11:48pm)
Bog is empty. Siege has weird layout after last change but I didn't bother to learn it, so maybe it isn't that bad after all.


I like keeping waste pool as well.


And drain all alchs in no time. I run 90+ IIQ without any changes. I vaal everything between 20-28ish pack size.


Bloodlines are better for maps, even without IIQ.

You forgot about fragments and prophecies. :P


Beyond is 50% more xp, bloodlines isn't as good.

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#23
Oct 9 2018 03:00pm
Quote (GoSuOne @ 8 Oct 2018 21:27)
You will get the same problem at Lair, UGS, and so on :D

No, burials are much, much worse.

Quote (Plaguefear @ 9 Oct 2018 00:13)
Beyond is 50% more xp, bloodlines isn't as good.

No one talked about XP.
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#24
Oct 9 2018 06:09pm
Quote (Xasthur @ Oct 10 2018 08:00am)
No, burials are much, much worse.


No one talked about XP.


Xp is the entire point.
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Oct 10 2018 05:26am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 10 Oct 2018 02:09)
Xp is the entire point.

We were talking about the easiest sustaining, stop bringing XP up.
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#26
Oct 10 2018 05:38am
Actually some way its quite hard to sustain UGS without relying on the map drops in abyssal chambers and vaal outposts in the mine.

Even with extant usage and zana beyond / bloodlines i do not get enough here ( falling back to shaped bog and hoping for a drop then, or even buying the UGS )
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Oct 10 2018 05:44am
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Actually some way its quite hard to sustain UGS without relying on the map drops in abyssal chambers and vaal outposts in the mine.

Even with extant usage and zana beyond / bloodlines i do not get enough here ( falling back to shaped bog and hoping for a drop then, or even buying the UGS )


I have zero issues but I do delve.
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Oct 10 2018 06:19am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 10 2018 12:44pm)
I have zero issues but I do delve.


y i do, too ( you always need to hope finding a city regularily, i see no template there how they spawn, or are there some ?! ^^)

just want to say, without that it would be pain ...

does the shaper / elder flip-flop on this map really help by the way?
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#29
Oct 11 2018 03:25am
Quote (0x00 @ Oct 10 2018 03:19pm)
y i do, too ( you always need to hope finding a city regularily, i see no template there how they spawn, or are there some ?! ^^)

just want to say, without that it would be pain ...

does the shaper / elder flip-flop on this map really help by the way?


Yeah, its actually key for sustain.U cannot sustain any +T15 maps without shaper/elder flip flop.Other important part is sac fragments, u should use 3 of them when building map pool.

...and overall beyond is number 1 mod atm..

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Oct 11 2018 10:42am
Quote (LolBastard @ Oct 11 2018 10:25am)
Yeah, its actually key for sustain.U cannot sustain any +T15 maps without shaper/elder flip flop.Other important part is sac fragments, u should use 3 of them when building map pool.

...and overall beyond is number 1 mod atm..


allright :D

too bad the fucken elder is currently occupying 10 maps on five hours right of shapers realm :lol:
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