Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 19 2018 01:45pm)

>create groundbreaking social media platform
>keep improving so everyone makes one
>lose control because it's so popular the public thinks it belongs to them

at least they have a few billion dollars to wipe their tears.

Quote (Mangix @ Oct 19 2018 01:54pm)

Makes me think of the "You knew i was a snake" adage Trump used to tout.

I think it wouldn't be an issue at all if there wasn't so much clear silicon collusion. Most normal people respond with well ill just start my own site or go elsewhere, but then you have situations where multiple companies deplatform you simultaneously, including to the level of your domain registrar. Not allowing you to compete or take your service elsewhere. Should be a fun ride.

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 19 2018 01:59pm)

sounds like a cyclical history of american capitalist/socialist ventures

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 19 2018 02:03pm)

kinda. but people "control" companies like Oreos by buying more or less of the offbrand, not shaking down their congressperson to draw up unprecedented anti-trust laws that will invariably have shitty language that will cause more problems than it addresses.

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 19 2018 02:13pm)

yeah but Oreos don't fulfill a crucial utility role in modern life or act as monopolistic gatekeepers of the public square. Oreos can't get so popular that other foods can't compete and you'll starve to death on a non-oreo diet.

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The convicted men:
Amere Singh Dhaliwal, 35, of Holly Road, Huddersfield, guilty of 54 counts, including 22 counts of rape, sentenced to life with a minimum term of 18 years
Irfan Ahmed, 34, of Yews Hill Road, Huddersfield, guilty of one count of sexual assault and two counts of trafficking for sexual exploitation, sentenced to eight years
Zahid Hassan, 29, of Bland Street Huddersfield, guilty of six counts of rape, one count of attempted rape, one count of sexual assault, one count of trafficking for sexual exploitation, two counts of child abduction, two counts of supplying class A drugs sentenced to 18 years
Mohammed Kammer, 34, of West View, Huddersfield, guilty of two counts of rape, sentenced to 16 years
Mohammed Rizwan Aslam, 31, of Huddersfield Road, Dewsbury, guilty of two counts of rape, sentenced to 15 years
Abdul Rehman, 31, of Darnely Drive, Sheffield, guilty of supplying a class C drug, one count of rape, one count of assault and one count of trafficking for sexual exploitation, sentenced to 16 years
Raj Singh Barsran, 34, of Caldercliffe Road, Huddersfield, guilty of rape and two counts of sexual assault, sentenced to 17 years
Nahman Mohammed, 32, of West View, Huddersfield, guilty of two counts of rape and one count of trafficking for sexual exploitation, sentenced to 15 years
Mansoor Akhtar, 27, of Blackmoorfoot Road, Huddersfield, guilty of two counts of rape and two counts of trafficking for sexual exploitation, sentenced to eight years
Wiqas Mahmud, 38, of Banks Crescent, Huddersfield, guilty of three counts of rape, sentenced to 15 years
Nasarat Hussain, 30, of Upper Mount Street, Huddersfield, guilty of three counts of rape and one count of sexual assault, sentenced to 17 years
Sajid Hussain, of 33, of Grasmere Road, Huddersfield, guilty of two counts of rape, sentenced to 17 years
Mohammed Irfraz, 30, of North Road, Huddersfield, guilty of child abduction and two counts of trafficking for sexual exploitation, sentenced to six years
Faisal Nadeem, 32, of Carr Green, Huddersfield, guilty of rape and supplying class A drugs, sentenced to 12 years
Mohammed Azeem, 33, of Wrose Road, Bradford, guilty of five counts of rape, sentenced to 18 years
Manzoor Hassan, 38, of Bland Street, Huddersfield, guilty of administering a noxious substance, inciting child prostitution and supplying a class A drug, sentenced to five years
Mohammed Akram, 33, of Springdale Street, Huddersfield, guilty of two counts of rape and two counts of trafficking for sexual exploitation and awaiting sentencing
Niaz Ahmed, 54, of Woodthorpe Terrace, Huddersfield, guilty of sexual assault and inciting a child to engage in sexual activity and awaiting sentencing
Asif Bashir, 33, of Thornton Lodge Road, Huddersfield, guilty of, rape and attempted rape and awaiting sentencing
Mohammed Imran Ibrar, 34, of Manchester Road, Huddersfield, guilty of trafficking for sexual exploitation and assault and awaiting sentencing

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 19 2018 03:20pm)

i'll fully admit that we ARE intertwined with social media, but not that it's a necessity. Myspace fell, facebook could too. will it? probably not. but they've already ceded a massive amount of market share this decade with the emergence of twitter and instagram, even larger big box forums like redit take their share of the market. Facebooks market isn't # of users, it's hours per day internet usage per person. of which they've massively lost time compared to 6-7 years ago when facebook was a one stop shop.

but, as an intellectual, i recognize that attacking social media platforms is like trying to catch smoke with your bare hands. they have the ability to code or simply change around regulations in real time while the legislation takes forever. let's also recognize that for the legislation to really be effective it's going to need to be platform specific. you can't make censorship rules in a general sense that will be effective without addressing the process that each platform uses to censor, and they're not exactly all the same. even if they were they could adopt differing policies to skirt the regulations. or you push it to something like a public council or tribunal and then it's open to corruption and moves as fast as molasses.

it's a quagmire, we all know social media and their stranglehold on public speech on their platform are a problem. but combating the problem isn't straight forward, any politician claiming they know what legislation needs to look like is a liar.

edit: oreos is also owned by one of the largest producers of food and household goods in the country, #2 if memory serves. if they closed doors a hell of a lot more people would suffer than if facebook was unplugged.

Quote (Mangix @ Oct 19 2018 02:40pm)

Thats a great point. I could see twitter just making you appear in like 1% of posts instead of outright banning you then arguing that the community essentially shushed you not the company outright removing you or some similar shit to shadowbanning to get around regulation.

Although if the trend stays i could see company specific making sense because its pretty much only 3-5 calling all the shots not 100s.

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“We’ve confirmed that your account is in violation of our Google Ads policies. Since this decision is final, the account will not be reinstated,” wrote Google to Goldy in an email. “Please avoid creating additional Google Ads accounts, as they will be subjected to the same suspension. Our support team will not be able to give you any more specifics on the suspension.”

“Voting commenced Monday at 10am, we got the notice [of ad suspension] late on Saturday night,” declared Goldy to Breitbart Tech, adding that an appeal was impossible until Google’s offices opened again on Monday, the day of the election.