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Jun 11 2018 04:01pm
let's be real, there's no excuse to roll out ddr5 yet.

Why did DDR3 roll out? It was sensible, the fastest ddr2 cpu's were starved for bandwidth as early as the Pentium D, and the FSB wasn't going anywhere until we had faster memory since that was always a bottleneck especially on Core 2 Quads.

DDR4 also made sense, you have CPU's now built on a much smaller process that are more sensitive and we needed lower voltage memory to go along with it. They made some ddr3 skylake motherboards that you can try at your own risk and see what I mean. It was also a nice speed increase that left us with a lot of headroom if there was ever innovation again.

ddr5?... I mean the difference between the fastest ddr3 and ddr4 mainsteam cpu is negligible, how can it be time to make a new standard already? ddr3 cpu's weren't bandwidth starved despite them being so close to ddr4 cpu's in performance, so there's no way Intel's who are still running on an endlessly optimized sandy bridge/p3 core and Ryzen, the only new Arch we've actually gotten since DDR4 was released and isn't even bandwidth starved, just sensitive to ram speed due to the infinity fabric sharing a clock with ram, call for DDR5 to become a thing.

Process nodes also haven't shrunk significantly since DDR4's introduction, compared to the introduction of previous iterations of sdram vs the end of their life cycle.

I feel like Micron and Samsung just want people to have to buy more overpriced RAM and are bringing nothing new to the table to justify it, just god forbid anyone keep the same kit between 2 builds.

Anyone else getting this impression? It's a shitty cash grab.

This post was edited by DCSS on Jun 11 2018 04:05pm
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Jun 11 2018 04:05pm
Is memory speed a bottleneck for anything? If not then I don't see any reason to roll out ddr5
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when tech was still moving fast?

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Is memory speed a bottleneck for anything? If not then I don't see any reason to roll out ddr5


memory speed is a bottleneck when benchmarking memory speed.
latency is more often a bottleneck for programs like winrar, but i doubt DDR5 will address this. Occassionally ddr2/ddr3 ends up being better than ddr4 for a certain workload just because the latency is shorter on the older standards and the higher clock speed of ddr4 doesn't always make up for the difference with more cycles.

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Jun 11 2018 06:39pm
Wat r u doing wity your life
Do u understand anything
Pcs arent limited to your small existence
And companies actually
Need faster shit
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Wat r u doing wity your life
Do u understand anything
Pcs arent limited to your small existence
And companies actually
Need faster shit


can you even think of a commercial use case where 4-6 ddr4 memory channels is insufficient for a single processor? These companies also use scalable solutions as you should probably know. Multiple the number of memory channels per chip by cpu's per mainboard by number of mainboards.
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Jun 11 2018 08:29pm
ask intels bank acc
if faster memory is important
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Quote (yupitsmeh @ Jun 11 2018 10:49pm)
[URL=https://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page2.html]https://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page2.html[/URL]


Obviously increases


where's the ddr5
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where's the ddr5



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