Quote (SBD @ Jan 11 2018 10:53pm)

Nope, so far gone now that it has zero impact. You're a Natty.

Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Jan 12 2018 01:50am)

Natty imo.

But who cares? Does anybody here look down on Dorian Yates? Dave Hoff? How about Jay Cutler or Arnie?

No, because they all worked their asses off to get where they got. Foods aren’t a wonder drug bruh. You look good, and I doubt that a short cycle put you where you’re at now.

Quote (Excusemem8 @ Jan 12 2018 10:04am)

Steroids are a wonder drug. None of those people would be anything without the steroids. Absolutely nothing. Steroids made them who they are, and they have steroids to thank

Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Jan 12 2018 02:56am)

You can’t roid and be a couch potato and get swole. I’m not saying roids didn’t help their physique.. All I’m saying is that hard work and roids are completely synonymous. Arnie and Yates worked harder than 99% of every swinging dick that was competing in their time.

Quote (Excusemem8 @ Jan 12 2018 05:02am)

Non natty spotted.


OP you are not natty. You’ve injected steroids into ur body lol? How is this a question

Quote (Pete1028 @ Jan 12 2018 07:47am)

so that 4 weeks out of 12 weeks i did 7 years ago altered my body in a way that i could never of gotten where i am today naturally?

that 4 weeks i did 7 years ago is relevant to my success today and it would be misleading for me to say that i am a natural lifter?



and yes, above all, i understand how silly this whole thing is and how beta it is


realistically, no matter what anyone says in my mind i'm natty, and a lifetime natty, and no one will ever change my mind on that


the whole thing is kind of funny and the difference in what people say on this is pretty polar

Quote (Excusemem8 @ Jan 12 2018 11:06am)

Post it on your Facebook status

Quote (Braxton11 @ Jan 11 2018 11:54pm)

First of all. Nobody gives a fuck. If you're really spending this much time with a bunch of dudes trying to figure out something that literally will change nothing in your life, I suggest you find something more worth your time.

Literally only betas in the gym care what other dudes think about them or care enough to worry if another dude is natty or not.

Since you seem to really care about other people's opinions on it though I would say that if you touch steroids at all technically you're not natty. That's literally the point. Doesn't matter how long you used them for or how long ago it was.

Quote (Pete1028 @ Jan 12 2018 08:20am)

not sure what that has to do with anything at all, my facebook is far from a fitness community



and this is 100% true