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Nov 22 2017 07:25am
Quote (DoctorManhattan @ Nov 16 2017 04:40am)
You know every class in vanilla was viable for one situation or another just because back then people didn’t know how to use it doesn’t mean it wasn’t viable


Classes were very restricted back then so for raiding not every spec in a class was viable, no. Why bring X when Y could do it better?

Just because you could play every class doesnt mean that it was good in any way compared to the alternative, Balance druid being dominated by mages dps and retri paladins by fury warriors.

People seem to think it was due to lack of knowledge but it wasnt. Certain classes was just bad, its as simple as that. Some could be more useful in pvp but still bad. And i know from experience after ranking 11 and raiding with multiple level 60.
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Nov 22 2017 12:46pm
Quote (Spetch @ Nov 22 2017 07:25am)
Classes were very restricted back then so for raiding not every spec in a class was viable, no. Why bring X when Y could do it better?

Just because you could play every class doesnt mean that it was good in any way compared to the alternative, Balance druid being dominated by mages dps and retri paladins by fury warriors.

People seem to think it was due to lack of knowledge but it wasnt. Certain classes was just bad, its as simple as that. Some could be more useful in pvp but still bad. And i know from experience after ranking 11 and raiding with multiple level 60.


Pure truth. The game was sort of broken in vanilla not only in raids but world PvP, meeting someone with a broken spec was a joke and they had no chance at defending them selves even in a full party.
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Nov 22 2017 02:09pm
Quote (Deere @ Nov 22 2017 06:46pm)
Pure truth. The game was sort of broken in vanilla not only in raids but world PvP, meeting someone with a broken spec was a joke and they had no chance at defending them selves even in a full party.


i.e. Sulfuras on an enhancement shaman vs anyone in max BWL Gear........ GL surviving that as anything other than a tank
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Quote (Camouflage @ Nov 22 2017 10:09pm)
i.e. Sulfuras on an enhancement shaman vs anyone in max BWL Gear........ GL surviving that as anything other than a tank


First of all, Sulfuras isn't even that good. It's a fun item to have and honestly the only class that you could say its good on would be a ench shaman, but its still an ench shaman. No, no one plays feral druid and gets away with it as dps.
Fury warriors only get it for fun since Dual wielding after BWL patch is much stronger. (And before that you want BRE because if I'm not mistaken, you can't get Eye of Sulfuras before that patch)

And going full BWL gear with Sulfuras on a Ench shaman? Where, PvP? Because that would be the only viable option ever for you with that spec and gear.
Obviously you're going to pop out a lot of damage. Ele and Ench shamans work in a good setup for Pre-mades, but that's where your fun stop because no serious guild will ever say "Oh, lets bring in a bunch of ench and ele shamans to the raid".

This post was edited by Spetch on Nov 22 2017 04:03pm
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Nov 22 2017 11:43pm
Tbh I'd like pvp closer to TBC. More than anything though I want later TBC.

This post was edited by SBD on Nov 22 2017 11:43pm
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Tbh I'd like pvp closer to TBC. More than anything though I want later TBC.


I would love that, going into TBC after vanilla. As long as its not too early
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Nov 25 2017 03:24pm
i would like to see some change - Mass loot when you kill a group of enemi - Share quest system like in legion if you tag a mob others can still gain access to loot if they hit it... So i wont have to wait 3 hours for Hoggers. But other then that Nothing els
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Nov 25 2017 03:39pm
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i would like to see some change - Mass loot when you kill a group of enemi - Share quest system like in legion if you tag a mob others can still gain access to loot if they hit it... So i wont have to wait 3 hours for Hoggers. But other then that Nothing els



Nah you will like looting over and over and first come first serve better tag that mob baby
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Nov 25 2017 05:53pm
No changes I want the game how it was
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Nov 25 2017 08:42pm
lol, you guys kill me. You want the old stuff but once you are done with all of your changes, guess what. You have what we have now. This is why they haven't done this before now, because they know it is just nostalgia and the whiners don't know what they really want. If I was blizz, I would just keep going like they are now and be thankful to get rid of all of the people that aren't ever happy with anything they do.

This post was edited by 3ironman on Nov 25 2017 08:43pm
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