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Oct 20 2017 03:18pm
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Only a f****** idiot can think that the Industrial Revolution and having a billion cars on the planet hasn't caused immense changes in our climate.



How much carbon dioxide do natural volcanoes make?

Bet you have no idea
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How much carbon dioxide do natural volcanoes make?

Bet you have no idea


Why would he when you can just do a simple Google search on why the raw number is misleading
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Oct 20 2017 03:37pm
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Changes? Sure. Immense changes? I don't know about that.

I do know that the climate has always been changing and always will be changing because that is the very nature of the beast.

I also know that in regards to weather and climate the signal to noise ratio is very, very low. In addition to this, the 'science' in this arena is very heavily observational not experimental, leading to models that describe well what has happened while poorly predicting what will happen.

Not to mention the fact that there are so many 'climate change' models that they predict nearly every possible outcome. This leads to a situation where no matter what happens, it supports the climate change narrative.

I don't think that pollution is good, obviously the industrial revolution has led to a lot of pollution. We need to take care of our planet, I don't think too many people disagree with this.

Overall, I am more concerned with real pollution than CO2. The earth is a massive buffer that tends to equilibrate rather quickly.


Humans are careless defectors and doing more damage to earth faster than juat about anything has.

Thumbs and frontal lobes are about the worse thing that has ever happen to earth. But when the sun eventually shallows it all nothing can really be said to have haopened, and we will be long dead by then anyway.

But seriously though, we could be living in the middle of a nuclear winter and most life on earth could be facing extinction and you would still be trying to minimize it. You can Google aerial shots of mass agriculture sites and see giant neon green lakes. Do you think people have ever had to wear masks on a normal day due to pollution when cavemen walked the earth? No fucking way. Goes back to the post you quoted at this point.
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Humans are careless defectors and doing more damage to earth faster than juat about anything has.

Thumbs and frontal lobes are about the worse thing that has ever happen to earth. But when the sun eventually shallows it all nothing can really be said to have haopened, and we will be long dead by then anyway.

But seriously though, we could be living in the middle of a nuclear winter and most life on earth could be facing extinction and you would still be trying to minimize it. You can Google aerial shots of mass agriculture sites and see giant neon green lakes. Do you think people have ever had to wear masks on a normal day due to pollution when cavemen walked the earth? No fucking way. Goes back to the post you quoted at this point.


Thanks for telling me what I think about nuclear holocaust. And I already told you pollution is bad - we are in agreement here.
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Why would he when you can just do a simple Google search on why the raw number is misleading



“Facts are misleading”

Democrats in 2017
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“Facts are misleading”

Democrats in 2017


You would have never made it in a graduate program.
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How much carbon dioxide do natural volcanoes make?

Bet you have no idea


What does that have to do with anything?

Volcanoes happen, and if a Tambora goes off we'll have to deal. Lord knows it would be a lot easier to deal with that if we didn't pump so much CO2 and other pollutants.

A relatively stable environment taking an eruption is a lot safer overall then an environment engulfed in feedback effects taking a huge hit. The pollution we've caused increases volatility.

Anywho... just wanted to post the latest GOP idea... cutting everyone's pre-tax contribution limits for their 401Ks.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/us/politics/republicans-tax-401-k.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

This post was edited by Interesting on Oct 20 2017 09:31pm
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What does that have to do with anything?

Volcanoes happen, and if a Tambora goes off we'll have to deal. Lord knows it would have a lot easier to deal with that if we didn't pump so much CO2. A stable environment taking an eruption is a lot safer overall then an environment engulfed in feedback effects taking a huge eruption.

Anywho... just wanted to post the latest GOP idea... cutting everyone's pre-tax contribution limits for their 401Ks.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/us/politics/republicans-tax-401-k.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


New York Times isn't a credible source anymore
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New York Times isn't a credible source anymore


It's a good thing you're not a credible person.
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Quote (Interesting @ Oct 20 2017 11:28pm)
What does that have to do with anything?

Volcanoes happen, and if a Tambora goes off we'll have to deal. Lord knows it would be a lot easier to deal with that if we didn't pump so much CO2 and other pollutants.

A relatively stable environment taking an eruption is a lot safer overall then an environment engulfed in feedback effects taking a huge hit. The pollution we've caused increases volatility.

Anywho... just wanted to post the latest GOP idea... cutting everyone's pre-tax contribution limits for their 401Ks.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/us/politics/republicans-tax-401-k.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


The GOP has had a lot of ideas recently. Haven't seen any bills actually go through yet. Wake me up when Congress actually guts retirement saving and we can all vote them out.

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Another reason we should make the members of the government live by the same rules as everyone else. No special health insurance markets, no lifetime pensions for 2+ years of work, etc. Maybe then we will see some common sense legislation on healthcare, tax reform and retirement savings.

This post was edited by murder567 on Oct 21 2017 09:30am
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