Quote (DiS505 @ Oct 17 2017 01:47pm)
When I was writing that I wasn't sure about it, shoulda checked - my bad. Still think they'll be third this year. Not a chance that the Raptors or Wizards take a 1 or 2 seed.
On talent your absolutely right they are probably the 3 and 4 seeds. But lebron is hurt and IT is out for about half the season so I'm not sure the cavs win more regular season games then last year. Playoffs no question they win barring an injury but regular season I think they slip a little until they get used to playing together.
Same thing with the celtics. Kyrie teams have sucked when he's not with lebron (cavs were minus 8 with kyrie in the floor and no lebron) and they have like a 70% roster turnover. That takes time to gel and fit together as a team which could mean a slow start.
Im basing this purely off those 2 teams taking awhile to get going while the raptors and wizards have quick starts because they have that continuity and will play better as a unit. Both have suspect benches for different reasons. The wizards lack depth and the raptors bench is young as hell. Could be good could be a disaster.