? so basically you have nothing to say because you know I'm right?

IT isn't crippled lmao, he's injured but he will be back. Are you going to completely ignore the fact that he outperformed Kyrie last season? IT had a prime Allen Iverson type of season, but even better statistically. There isn't much dropoff, neither Kyrie nor IT play defense, but one thing is for sure is that IT has more heart and hustle. Turns out Kyrie is just a locker room cancer who you can't trust your team to be around because he's out there talking shit behind your back rofl.

Anyways, Rose looked really good the second half of last season. REALLY good....like, he averaged 20 points a game on 50% shooting from the floor the second half of his season. Now he will be running the second unit once IT is back? Yeah, he'll be just fine and a major upgrade over Deron Williams LOL.

This post was edited by Sixers on Oct 16 2017 12:20pm

Outperformed? yeah, let's ignore the fact that Kyrie had a better TRP, Better FG%, MUCH better 3 PT %

The only stat that Isaiah was significantly better than Kyrie last year was PPG... other than that, Kyrie > hands down.

Oh, and Kyrie isn't injured... and is what 3 years younger? lol...

and talk about Locker Room cancer? let's ignore the Chris Broussard report that said 3 different NBA execs said IT was a locker room problem...

only thing I will agree with is yes, Deron Williams is awful lol.

Deron Williams went OFF in the finals though..

who cares though cuz D Rose is MUCH MUCH better according to Sixers...

You're really fond of cherry picking stats.

IT was significantly better than Kyrie last season.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Oct 16 2017 12:52pm

IT = 62.5 True Shooting %
Kyrie = 58.0 True Shooting %

IT = 12.5 Win Shares
Kyrie = 8.9 Win Shares

IT = 5.4 BPM
Kyrie = 2.4 BPM

IT = 4.9 VORP (Value over replacement player)
Kyrie = 2.9 VORP

IT = 26.59 PER
Kyrie = 23.09 PER

IT = 597.9 VA (Value Added)
Kyrie = 455.6 VA

IT = 19.9 EWA (Estimated Wins Added)
Kyrie = 15.2 EWA


I can keep going if you would like, but it's a waste of time to be honest. Everyone knows IT had a better season than Kyrie, period. It's not really up for debate lol.

Oh and those stats have any meaning going into the 2017-2018 season?

IT might have had a better season but Kyrie is a better player...

The irony is some of those are exactly the stats he was using to argue that DRose was trash

But when they conflict with his narrative they're no good. Good shit.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Oct 16 2017 12:59pm

What?