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zarkadon
#4871 May 24 2020 07:34am
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Y'all can come to get drunk and party in Spain starting on July the 8th!

We are ready to welcome you, my American and fellow European friends!
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#4872 May 24 2020 07:36am
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Quote (zarkadon @ 24 May 2020 15:34)
Y'all can come to get drunk and party in Spain starting on July the 8th!

We are ready to welcome you, my American and fellow European friends!


Are you folks still locked down btw?
zarkadon
#4873 May 24 2020 07:51am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 24 May 2020 15:36)
Are you folks still locked down btw?




Phase 1: People can gather in public and visit the homes of friends and family, as long as the groups are of no more than 10 people. Most small businesses are able to open, but under strict sanitary conditions. Bars and small tourist hotels will be able to open under 30% capacity and keeping common areas closed. Businesses that attend customers face to face must have a timeframe for exclusive use of senior citizens. People can move freely around the province, but not exit it... they can go out to the field and mountain, but not the beach.

Phase 2: Restaurants, cinemas, theaters, monuments, tourist attractions, etc... will be able to function, but at no more than 30% of their capacity. People can't leave their province, but they can go to the beach (the local authorities must control the capacity of beaches, and must guarantee that each visitor has 4 squared meters of space available).



However, in both phases, loitering, going for a walk, or practicing sport in urban areas, is only allowed in the established timeframes:

6-10 am: people between 14-70 years old.
10-12 am: people over 70.
12-5pm: kids under 14 (with an adult)
5-8pm: people over 70.
8-11pm: people between 14-70.

Note, kids and adults over 70 can go outside whenever they want, it's just that they have an exclusive timeframe.
zarkadon
#4874 May 24 2020 08:53am
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Meanwhile, alt-right party VOX has orchestrated several rallies against the government. Most of them have been "car parades", so as to make sure that the safety distance is kept.

The majority of people were your average conservatives, but there was also a somewhat surprisingly high number of far right people proudly showing off Franco-ist flags and symbols.







You always get SOME random people like these in demonstrations organized by the right wing, but there seems to have been far more this time. It seems like more people on the alt-right are ignoring the stigma of the fascist dictatorship and are becoming more accepting with these symbols.
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#4875 May 24 2020 09:09am
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Quote (zarkadon @ May 24 2020 02:34pm)
Y'all can come to get drunk and party in Spain starting on July the 8th!

We are ready to welcome you, my American and fellow European friends!


The Benidorm stag do in September is back on B)
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#4876 May 24 2020 09:13am
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Quote (zarkadon @ 24 May 2020 09:34)
Y'all can come to get drunk and party in Spain starting on July the 8th!

We are ready to welcome you, my American and fellow European friends!

nice
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#4877 May 24 2020 09:16am
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Quote (zarkadon @ 24 May 2020 16:53)
Meanwhile, alt-right party VOX has orchestrated several rallies against the government. Most of them have been "car parades", so as to make sure that the safety distance is kept.

The majority of people were your average conservatives, but there was also a somewhat surprisingly high number of far right people proudly showing off Franco-ist flags and symbols.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYs1PFRWsAAa0Cv.jpg

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5ec94bc1250000851feb200e.jpeg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYyT339XkAArhc4.jpg

You always get SOME random people like these in demonstrations organized by the right wing, but there seems to have been far more this time. It seems like more people on the alt-right are ignoring the stigma of the fascist dictatorship and are becoming more accepting with these symbols.



I would bet some of them regret Franco only because themselves or their families had much power and money during these times.
zarkadon
#4878 May 24 2020 09:36am
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 24 May 2020 17:16)
I would bet some of them regret Franco only because themselves or their families had much power and money during these times.


The vast majority of people that were well-off during the dictatorship are still well-off today. The growth of the middle class during the past 4-5 decades has been much more of a promotion for the poor than a demotion for the rich.

The main issue is these guys believe that people shouldn't be allowed to promote ideals of what they consider are laziness (social democratic, to anything further to the left), moral decadence (secularism, progressive liberalism, the adoption of a more casual register of communication over a more traditional and formal one, etc) or national treachery (regionalist or independence movements, over the sacrosanct unity and uniformity of the Spanish nation).

To them, these values must be preserved at all costs, and the democratic system has been corrupted, unable to put a stop to this national decadence. These things were in check under Franco, even if he "had his faults"... so the idea of a new "strong man", who is willing to do "what has to be done, without fear of bad press", is desirable.

This post was edited by zarkadon on May 24 2020 09:36am
Black XistenZ
#4879 May 24 2020 06:07pm
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Quote (zarkadon @ 24 May 2020 17:36)
The vast majority of people that were well-off during the dictatorship are still well-off today. The growth of the middle class during the past 4-5 decades has been much more of a promotion for the poor than a demotion for the rich.

The main issue is these guys believe that people shouldn't be allowed to promote ideals of what they consider are laziness (social democratic, to anything further to the left), moral decadence (secularism, progressive liberalism, the adoption of a more casual register of communication over a more traditional and formal one, etc) or national treachery (regionalist or independence movements, over the sacrosanct unity and uniformity of the Spanish nation).

To them, these values must be preserved at all costs, and the democratic system has been corrupted, unable to put a stop to this national decadence. These things were in check under Franco, even if he "had his faults"... so the idea of a new "strong man", who is willing to do "what has to be done, without fear of bad press", is desirable.


Except for the rejection of regionalist movements, this reads like a generic description of every far-right goallist in every Western country. ^_^

I'm just glad that the people from Madrid and Barcelona can finally go outside again. These strict shutdowns are inhumane, and there is very little evidence for their efficacy compared to less strict social distancing rules.
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