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Oct 12 2017 04:46pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 12 2017 11:43pm)
i have all of the good gear afterall.


* On East :P

This post was edited by bonnerf2 on Oct 12 2017 04:48pm
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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 12 2017 05:43pm)
LOL thats funny. there are a shit load of 31 items that are boss



i dont expect anyone to build them, i have all of the good gear afterall.

if anyone wants to duel at 24 they need just pm me for access if i know them and theyd never have to build one.


im iso duels with ur 24s rand
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Oct 12 2017 06:09pm
Funny how you say your level 18 would destroy any level 21.
1st off, your own level 21 would destroy your own level 18.
But most importantly, if you were not narcissic you would of catch the point.
Level 21 offers a wider range of items.
And better chars. Did not say unlock skills at all here..
And iam not talking about common chargers..

I just think level 30 is now = to top GMs.
Comes back to who has the better gear, and yes a bit of skills for sure.

But i just came back tonplay, i will redo the maths.
But level 21, thus maybe level 24, offers alot more creativity and diffrencies.

Happy gaming, and see you soon :)

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Quote (QcCOrado @ Oct 12 2017 07:09pm)
Funny how you say your level 18 would destroy any level 21.
1st off, your own level 21 would destroy your own level 18.
But most importantly, if you were not narcissic you would of catch the point.
Level 21 offers a wider range of items.
And better chars. Did not say unlock skills at all here..
And iam not talking about common chargers..

I just think level 30 is now = to top GMs.
Comes back to who has the better gear, and yes a bit of skills for sure.

But i just came back tonplay, i will redo the maths.
But level 21, thus maybe level 24, offers alot more creativity and diffrencies.

Happy gaming, and see you soon :)


21 doesnt open up anything more just scs and sanders
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Oct 12 2017 06:36pm
Quote (Riox @ Oct 12 2017 05:15pm)
21 doesnt open up anything more just scs and sanders



The sc' s make all the melee chars stronger at least

Idk what else that guy talking bout though
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Oct 12 2017 08:34pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 12 2017 06:43pm)
LOL thats funny. there are a shit load of 31 items that are boss



i dont expect anyone to build them, i have all of the good gear afterall.

if anyone wants to duel at 24 they need just pm me for access if i know them and theyd never have to build one.


I had a setup for a level 31 bowa on the lld accounts I sold this year, but it seems he got it banned somehow

15 ias/20% ed jewels, 151(?) poison damage charms, riphook
IIRC ik boots are level 31 too but idk what useful 31 build would have that much strength. rockstopper is 31 too if it matters

Quote (QcCOrado @ Oct 12 2017 08:09pm)
Funny how you say your level 18 would destroy any level 21.
1st off, your own level 21 would destroy your own level 18.
But most importantly, if you were not narcissic you would of catch the point.
Level 21 offers a wider range of items.
And better chars. Did not say unlock skills at all here..
And iam not talking about common chargers..

I just think level 30 is now = to top GMs.
Comes back to who has the better gear, and yes a bit of skills for sure.

But i just came back tonplay, i will redo the maths.
But level 21, thus maybe level 24, offers alot more creativity and diffrencies.

Happy gaming, and see you soon :)


gear matters but most of the people in this thread have spent years killing people with better gear

This post was edited by Worrywart on Oct 12 2017 08:35pm
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Oct 13 2017 02:54am
Quote (Riox @ Oct 13 2017 01:15am)
21 doesnt open up anything more just scs and sanders


Trev had some use with general's flail on a bm lvl24 smite/charge.

Rogues Bow, Nightsmoke, Wall of the Eyeless, Leaf (runeword) all options too. I think Snipa might use some of these as swaps on his 24s.

Having said that, the game changer are charms for sure. 3/20/15s and 5frw/6max/48ar LCs. They do nothing for balance though. Just make the gap between the two top chars at 18 and the rest even bigger.
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Trev had some use with general's flail on a bm lvl24 smite/charge.

Rogues Bow, Nightsmoke, Wall of the Eyeless, Leaf (runeword) all options too. I think Snipa might use some of these as swaps on his 24s.

Having said that, the game changer are charms for sure. 3/20/15s and 5frw/6max/48ar LCs. They do nothing for balance though. Just make the gap between the two top chars at 18 and the rest even bigger.


indeed i do use those as swaps. leaf v leaf sorc duels make for some fun stuff compared to sorc v sorc at 18
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Oct 14 2017 05:19am
Quote (bonnerf2 @ 13 Oct 2017 02:54)
Trev had some use with general's flail on a bm lvl24 smite/charge.

Rogues Bow, Nightsmoke, Wall of the Eyeless, Leaf (runeword) all options too. I think Snipa might use some of these as swaps on his 24s.

Having said that, the game changer are charms for sure. 3/20/15s and 5frw/6max/48ar LCs. They do nothing for balance though. Just make the gap between the two top chars at 18 and the rest even bigger.


2 sock DS helms too for charge/zeal

e/ tadaaa... but the final product swapped the FHR lc for 2x more 32015s or 15/12s (forget which)... and then got deleted. I suppose the damage would be higher now that he could use 4-15s or 20 maxers instead of 15/10@ jewels too



This post was edited by Belarathon on Oct 14 2017 05:25am
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Oct 14 2017 06:14am
How did this thread turn into 24s?
That's a whole different story 21 wise it's the scs
24 opens up a whole new playing field
And Trev that character is just ridiculous
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