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Best way to lose gutt? Running, crunches? stair stepper? i'm not sure what is best...
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Just have to end up in a calorie deficit to lose fat. At the same time do ab work to build up your muscles so your abs will be more visible. So start tracking what you eat with an app like myfitnesspal to make sure you're in a deficit.
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Lots of crunches to target stomach fat
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Oct 7 2017 08:46pm
Hmm ok thanks guys, looking for more opinions



bw i should of made myself more clear, i'm not looking to lose weight, only my stomach, i actually wanna build more upper body mass
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Hmm ok thanks guys, looking for more opinions



bw i should of made myself more clear, i'm not looking to lose weight, only my stomach, i actually wanna build more upper body mass


If you want to lose stomach fat you have to lose weight.
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Quote (ferf @ Oct 7 2017 10:46pm)
Hmm ok thanks guys, looking for more opinions



bw i should of made myself more clear, i'm not looking to lose weight, only my stomach, i actually wanna build more upper body mass



With exercices you cannot target where you're going to lose fat. You're not gonna lose legs fat by doing squat nor losing arms fat by doing triceps. This is complete bullshit.

However, you can help losing belly fat by reducing your stress. Another example, if you wanna lose pecs fat, you have to cut on eostrogene because fat on the pecs are caused by too much eostrogene and not enough testo.


You want to lose belly fat, move, have a decent diet. And if its too specific, consult a Kinesologist.


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Oct 7 2017 09:50pm
keto + food tracking app + sweat + caloric deficit = dd

you can go the cardio route so long as you don't go too hard on the carbs

but if you go keto you can drop weight and body fat without any cardio

TiMasse is 100% correct that targeting body parts for fat loss does not work. It won't hurt you to do abs for core endurance and improved mobility, plus when you do drop body fat you'll look better.
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Oct 7 2017 09:50pm)
keto + food tracking app + sweat + caloric deficit = dd

you can go the cardio route so long as you don't go too hard on the carbs

but if you go keto you can drop weight and body fat without any cardio

TiMasse is 100% correct that targeting body parts for fat loss does not work. It won't hurt you to do abs for core endurance and improved mobility, plus when you do drop body fat you'll look better.


I know you're biased to the keto diet but to be fair you can lose weight without doing cardio on a normal diet too as long as you're in a deficit.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Oct 7 2017 10:18pm
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I know you're biased to the keto diet but to be fair you can lose weight without doing cardio on a normal diet too as long as you're in a deficit.


That's true. Keto is just more efficient. It's also more difficult to follow a keto diet than most other diets, which is why I'd recommend going 60/20/20 or maybe a bit higher on the fats, and using intermittent (absolute min. 12h) fasts, starting feeding with water or any combo of coffee/exogenous ketones/mct oil to achieve ketosis. In this way you may not be in sustained ketosis but you also don't need to worry if you don't do well with no carbs.

I've lost weight every which way

carbs & cardio
keto & only lifting
keto & cardio (which felt f*cking terrible)

And my best balance was to stay around but above 60/20/20, lift, and go with intermittent fasting + exogenous ketones.

I've lost 19 pounds in 3 weeks via carbs + cardio.
I've lost 16 pounds in just short of 3 weeks using my quasi keto method.

The trouble with the carbs + cardio method (I don't mean high carbs, I just mean allowing 20%-40% if need be) was that I felt drained at the end. I was also dehydrated on some days and that felt bad.

I'm not opposed to plain old caloric deficit, I'm just stating a personal preference based on a few experiments.


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