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No one plays classic/10
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Aug 23 2017 12:23pm
Quote (Unconscious @ Aug 23 2017 08:40am)
No one plays classic/10


Clearly I do since I own this baba
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Quote (SCAMMERMAN @ Aug 23 2017 06:00am)
Your d2 knowledge is bad


slap a 60000 hp players 8 minion venom lord with a 1.8k avg damage-including-cs whirlwind in hell CS
now theres the problem that thanks to 50% dr / 39% block, it takes a ludicrous 109 whirlwind hits on average just to kill one trash mob with that fancy martel ignoring CB. Of course it probably regenerates faster
meanwhile every time crushing blow triggers, from taking a venom lord to 100% hp to 0% hp it has on average ~50%, so each CB deals the same as 7500 physical damage. (Against a 512k hp diablo its like 32000 physical damage per CB)
so 40% crushing blow is worth +3000 phys whirlwind against that venom lord.
ask yourself, would you rather have 1.8k whirlwind with 50% chance to deal ~7.5k cb, or 1.2k whirlwind with 90% chance to deal ~7.5k, or quadruple those cb bonuses against diablo.

of course, in reality, the answer is neither, you're better off just wielding 2x +2 barb sticks and BO'ing the dins/sorcs who are doing all the real work while you go around horking because your shitty whirlwind is irrelevant. A 20 fg iratha/shard/twitch/ward sorc who does nothing but spam level 20 static is doing 100x your damage output.
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Quote (BasedGoff @ 23 Aug 2017 13:23)
Clearly I do since I own this baba


Indeed. 1 of 8 people.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 23 2017 07:24pm)
slap a 60000 hp players 8 minion venom lord with a 1.8k avg damage-including-cs whirlwind in hell CS
now theres the problem that thanks to 50% dr / 39% block, it takes a ludicrous 109 whirlwind hits on average just to kill one trash mob with that fancy martel ignoring CB. Of course it probably regenerates faster
meanwhile every time crushing blow triggers, from taking a venom lord to 100% hp to 0% hp it has on average ~50%, so each CB deals the same as 7500 physical damage. (Against a 512k hp diablo its like 32000 physical damage per CB)
so 40% crushing blow is worth +3000 phys whirlwind against that venom lord.
ask yourself, would you rather have 1.8k whirlwind with 50% chance to deal ~7.5k cb, or 1.2k whirlwind with 90% chance to deal ~7.5k, or quadruple those cb bonuses against diablo.

of course, in reality, the answer is neither, you're better off just wielding 2x +2 barb sticks and BO'ing the dins/sorcs who are doing all the real work while you go around horking because your shitty whirlwind is irrelevant. A 20 fg iratha/shard/twitch/ward sorc who does nothing but spam level 20 static is doing 100x your damage output.



i didnt read this
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 23 2017 08:24pm)
slap a 60000 hp players 8 minion venom lord with a 1.8k avg damage-including-cs whirlwind in hell CS
now theres the problem that thanks to 50% dr / 39% block, it takes a ludicrous 109 whirlwind hits on average just to kill one trash mob with that fancy martel ignoring CB. Of course it probably regenerates faster
meanwhile every time crushing blow triggers, from taking a venom lord to 100% hp to 0% hp it has on average ~50%, so each CB deals the same as 7500 physical damage. (Against a 512k hp diablo its like 32000 physical damage per CB)
so 40% crushing blow is worth +3000 phys whirlwind against that venom lord.
ask yourself, would you rather have 1.8k whirlwind with 50% chance to deal ~7.5k cb, or 1.2k whirlwind with 90% chance to deal ~7.5k, or quadruple those cb bonuses against diablo.

of course, in reality, the answer is neither, you're better off just wielding 2x +2 barb sticks and BO'ing the dins/sorcs who are doing all the real work while you go around horking because your shitty whirlwind is irrelevant. A 20 fg iratha/shard/twitch/ward sorc who does nothing but spam level 20 static is doing 100x your damage output.


you sometimes had nice input, but this is bs

no one pvms with such an equipment, also barb can kill very fast, even better on a str barb setup

but this is all irrelevant since its not his barb anyways
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Quote (GMTennis @ Aug 24 2017 12:59am)
you sometimes had nice input, but this is bs
no one pvms with such an equipment, also barb can kill very fast, even better on a str barb setup


hows a baba kill fast when venom lords pack 50000-60000+ average HP, 50% dr and 39% block?
when big papa ww barb deals 1.8k average damage on whirlwind including CS.
whirling around in circles for a minute to kill 1 enemy in players 8 runs is shibs
nobody expects barbs to kill anything in CS, they're just there to BO and hork. If you want to players 1 cs with them you can but its still pitiful. 1800 whirlwind damage barbs can't compete with 8-9k damage hammerdonks who hit multiple targets at once, for 100% damage with 100% chance to hit and can't be blocked.

also
>no one pvms with such an equipment
the mart is socketed with a pskull. That's pvm gear, pvp uses pammys. He'll leech back 0 life/mana per hit with that setup

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but this is all irrelevant since its not his barb anyways


relevant for people thinking about making classic babas

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 24 2017 01:32am
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 24 2017 08:31am)
hows a baba kill fast when venom lords pack 50000-60000+ average HP, 50% dr and 39% block?
when big papa ww barb deals 1.8k average damage on whirlwind including CS.
whirling around in circles for a minute to kill 1 enemy in players 8 runs is shibs
nobody expects barbs to kill anything in CS, they're just there to BO and hork. If you want to players 1 cs with them you can but its still pitiful. 1800 whirlwind damage barbs can't compete with 8-9k damage hammerdonks who hit multiple targets at once, for 100% damage with 100% chance to hit and can't be blocked.

also
>no one pvms with such an equipment
the mart is socketed with a pskull. That's pvm gear, pvp uses pammys. He'll leech back 0 life/mana per hit with that setup



relevant for people thinking about making classic babas


most people sock pame on a higher str build

the guy who owns this barb has a shitty pre 1.10 pskull sock (and didnt remove it with the hack it seems), its not wanted in any situation

high str barbs clear cs very fast (everything dies in 1 ww mostly) without cb/block
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Quote (BasedGoff @ Aug 23 2017 11:23am)
Clearly I do since I own this baba


But you don't "own this baba"
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