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Aug 19 2017 08:47am
What do you lads think about this recent crackdown of less-than "PC" channels, pages, and users?

It seems anything even remotely in opposition to liberal ideas, feminism, Islam, BLM, or Antifa, and anything of the sort is getting the ban hammer, so to speak.
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Aug 19 2017 08:57am
I always giggle when I see tits being censored, but decapitations are ok.
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Aug 19 2017 09:00am
Right-wing people believe in a free market, so them criticizing powerful companies for censoring right-wing views doesn't make sense.



Thought we could just get that idiotic liberal response out of the way.
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Aug 19 2017 10:17am
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 19 2017 09:00am)
Right-wing people believe in a free market, so them criticizing powerful companies for censoring right-wing views doesn't make sense.



Thought we could just get that idiotic liberal response out of the way.


Their views are contradictory.

Free market until it does something I don't like. Then I'm going to criticize the company for acting in its best interest because it violates my other values.
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Aug 19 2017 10:21am
Facebook has a case, google doesn't.

A private club can kind of do what it wants. For example, if you have a private club that makes wedding cakes for members only, you can legally not make cakes for gay weddings. But if you are a public facing business that doesn't require membership then you must follow the relevant laws of the land. So-called hate speech is protected by the Constitution - so a publicly facing service like Google search cannot censor based on these grounds.
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Aug 19 2017 10:30am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 19 2017 11:17am)
Their views are contradictory.

Free market until it does something I don't like. Then I'm going to criticize the company for acting in its best interest because it violates my other values.


How are they contradictory? Just because you believe that a company(or individual) should have the right to do something, doesn't mean those actions should be free from criticism.

In a perfect free market world, these actions by Google/facebook would result in other companies taking more market share.

This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 19 2017 10:32am
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Aug 19 2017 10:31am
"anything even remotely in opposition to liberal ideas"

Yeah bullshit. Of course the world seems scary when you refuse to see it for what it is.
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Aug 19 2017 10:33am
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How are they contradictory? Just because you believe that a company(or individual) should have the right to do something, doesn't mean those actions are free from criticism.


There's strain between taking actions that benefit the company, and actions that benefit ideology. If it goes against their ideology, they get criticized. If they go against the profit motive, they get criticized.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 19 2017 11:33am)
There's strain between taking actions that benefit the company, and actions that benefit ideology. If it goes against their ideology, they get criticized. If they go against the profit motive, they get criticized.


First off, I don't know how Google/Facebook censoring right-wing people helps them make larger profits, but that's a separate issue.

I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make. A free market person is fine with the right of these companies to make that decision, but it goes against a sort of common decency/ethics. Free market people might be in favor legally of allowing weapons manufacturers to sell arms to repressive governments, that doesn't mean criticizing that company for doing so is contradictory. Libertarians don't automatically try to make something illegal if they don't like it. Companies sacrifice profits in favor of ethics all the time... free market people aren't against that.

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Aug 19 2017 10:43am
Whoever controls the information....wins. :/
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