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Aug 15 2017 02:37pm
Quote (Scaly @ Aug 15 2017 03:10pm)
Probably why most elements of Freudian psychology are pretty much universally considered a bunch of wank nowadays.


Except we still use his language and terminology today in psychiatry, psychoanalysis is still a powerful school of thought, and the subconscious still remains an object of study.

They say that it's been discredited in intro to psych but they don't act like it.

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Aug 15 2017 03:00pm
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Except we still use his language and terminology today in psychiatry, psychoanalysis is still a powerful school of thought, and the subconscious still remains an object of study.

They say that it's been discredited in intro to psych but they don't act like it.


All the greats have some rights and some wrongs.

Freud had psychosexual development for instance. Newton had alchemy.

Freud happened to have a LOT of wrongs.
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Aug 15 2017 03:33pm
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It's not that I'm confused by his style (it's a very upfront book), I just don't feel like it engages intellectually with the reader. Do his other books offer more rationalization or defense of the ideas presented within, or are they all in the aphoristic style?


He would say that if you need several pages to make an argument you are hiding something in the words and the truth is few words. He was an existentialist and they did philosophy differently. You aren't going to get a Kant-like argument. The things he says have layers.

I'll talk about it more when I get to the hotel.
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Aug 15 2017 05:33pm
There's a few things to remember about Nietzsche to help understand his work:

1) He really loved the classics (Greek) and studied them: he uses them a lot and makes veiled references to classical themes, plays, etc., frequently.

2) His works, though sometimes individualistic in style, are all related. Nietzsche worked on just about the same philosophical problems for his whole career, each book probing a little deeper or raising a bit more troubling questions. He would branch out and introduce new ideas or themes, often in an attempt to search for truth to the same problems that haunted his mind, but he would almost always address several of the same ones in each work.

3) If you're going to study a philosopher and/or his work, I'd recommend starting with a general survey, followed by a more in-depth analysis, followed by attempt to read one of the works.
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Aug 15 2017 08:32pm
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Then like 1 or 2 friends u have will laugh at you and then leave u.Tear up because u said Milt should sell crack? Rofl ur more dumb then I thought. Im guessing all the rage coming from u has killed some brain cells. Its ok though, they dont come back.U blow wtf r u talking about? Your sounding like all the randoms that me and the beg verbal all the time.Attempt @ funny joke.....FAILED, GTFO RANDOM.U blow and Milton isnt white u fuckin nerd. Hes black. Idk how a black person is a wigger. Im guessing your native country of Mexico doesnt know the difference between wiggers/niggers.Obviously Milt, he blows. Randoms posting 1 kill thinking they are good LOLOL. Afk gotta togo sleep and school tomorrow I hope not though cuz its snowing.when u learn something about jsp, u will realize we dont care about your plastic guns, and fake money. Ut tried it with fake weed, and got verballed till they all quit.Lol this kids so fuckin dumb. Raging over his "Guns" Y would I learn about plastic hand guns for little kids from u? I could goto a store and buy 1. I guess the pvmer wants to duel us. Milt we Vent tomorrow.Lol. I live in NY he wouldnt stand a chance here. He would shit his pants.RAPED, HES BAD.


uhhhhhh.... hmmmmmm...
why did you post this here? I mean couldn't you just pm the guy you are talking about?
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Aug 15 2017 08:44pm
Quote (caswallen @ 15 Aug 2017 21:32)
uhhhhhh.... hmmmmmm...
why did you post this here? I mean couldn't you just pm the guy you are talking about?


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Aug 15 2017 11:09pm
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Aug 15 2017 08:44pm)
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is there something else going on here?
cuz I see people talking about a book, then he starts raging about someone who pk'd him on D2?

wtf am I missing here?
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Aug 16 2017 04:47am
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Are all of his books so pretentious and utterly lacking in any defense or rational?


Yes.

Dude's a straight retard.

Quote (Skinned @ Aug 15 2017 04:37pm)
Except we still use his language and terminology today in psychiatry, psychoanalysis is still a powerful school of thought, and the subconscious still remains an object of study.

They say that it's been discredited in intro to psych but they don't act like it.


We still call the planets the names of Roman gods but that doesn't mean Roman mythology is valid.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Aug 16 2017 04:53am
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Aug 16 2017 04:58am
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Except we still use his language and terminology today in psychiatry, psychoanalysis is still a powerful school of thought, and the subconscious still remains an object of study.

They say that it's been discredited in intro to psych but they don't act like it.


Freud copied everything he knew from Hindu understanding of the psyche.
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Aug 16 2017 08:15am
Quote (Voyaging @ Aug 16 2017 05:47am)
Yes.

Dude's a straight retard.



We still call the planets the names of Roman gods but that doesn't mean Roman mythology is valid.


Except postmodernism happened. Derrida happened, Freud happened, Sartre happened, Foucault happened, Deleuze happened, Camus happened, Barthes happened, Levi-strauss happened, Wittgeinstein happened......etc etc....even Rothko, Pollack, and Worhol were part of this in the arts.

All were Nietzschean philosophers. They worked on problems he started on, in the paradigm he created. They continued his vast works.

His work transitioned knowledge from the Essentialism paradigm into the Existiential paradigm, away from natural law and helped humans have knowledge not based on mythology for once. He was talking about things like relativity and evolution because they were anything but hypothesis. He was a very gifted human being in ways, but he suffered for his art.

As far as influence he is only second to Kant.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 16 2017 08:16am
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