Quote (Incendiary @ Jun 2 2017 05:19pm)
Those prices are retarded. That cache is retarded. The fact that they aren't soldering the IHS on this line is retarded. Intel is going full retard. Why would anyone buy these?
The prices aren't competitive with Ryzen sure and they won't even be on the radar by the time Ryzen+ comes along with much more performance
but MOAR COARS
And the socket changes are welcome.
You can't expect intel to change all at once after so many years of jewing, anymore than you can expect someone who hasn't been in water for years to do anything besides slowly lower themselves into shallow water, hesitating heavily at the groin.
I think this gen is a holdover anyway. They did the same junk to no avail vs the Athlon 64 x2 K8 line when they started releasing Pentium D's in a desperate bid to compete with AMD. It was a disaster. But then with some corporate sabotage and the release of the superior Conroe and the core 2 duo line Intel annihilated AMD.
Later, when AMD made Phenom, Intel lowered Yorkfield C2Q prices lowered significantly shortly before Nehalem then Sandy Bridge rose the bar yet again and left AMD's tattered ass in the gutter. OFC I'm of the opinion this time it won't be quite as bad as post-Phenom II days because that was coming off the TLB bug, the Phenom I blunder, and Bulldozer having an even lower IPC than their older Deneb core. Pretty sure Ryzen is going to remain relevant as the value king rather than the performance leader it is now. Time will tell though.
Ryzen will likely maintain the highest perf/$ but there's no way it will remain the best performer overall with the difference in R&D between the 2 companies. This is just the third time AMD has caught Intel with their pants down. Ryzen die sizes are miniscule compared to Bulldozer so they won't have to sell them for a loss to compete with Intel no matter what happens unless Intel seriously doubles or more Skylake's IPC with the next gen.
This post was edited by DCSS on Jun 2 2017 04:00pm