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May 19 2017 09:10pm
Just curious to see perspectives of climate change. I didn't label it as climate change in the title because I believe that our climate is ever-changing and changes at different rates. This has me wondering if the citizens of JSP believe that global warming is a thing.

/e I know there is a thread just below this that has people in a fuss, but I want to see numbers.

This post was edited by Tpot on May 19 2017 09:12pm
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May 21 2017 01:28pm
Our climate is ever-changing, yes, but it's changing at a rate thousands of times faster than it would otherwise, and that reason is human activity.

On average it's warming though, so both global warming and climate change are accurate, and occurring.
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May 21 2017 02:52pm
Global warming is an observed fact.
Humans causing global warming has been verified statistically, ending up in a 99.99... % chance.

-> Personaly i dont need that much; 30% or even less would have been enough IMO.
It's always better if we can delay our "civilization" destruction by 100 years or so; it's maybe that kind of timing that could save our shitty specie :)

Im not sure at all it will be fixed anyway, 1 global war or very major crisis, and we are all good in finishing oil & coal stocks.

edit the study;

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212096314000163


This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 21 2017 03:03pm
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Quote (Thor123422 @ May 21 2017 03:28pm)
Our climate is ever-changing, yes, but it's changing at a rate thousands of times faster than it would otherwise, and that reason is human activity.

On average it's warming though, so both global warming and climate change are accurate, and occurring.


Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 21 2017 04:52pm)
Global warming is an observed fact.
Humans causing global warming has been verified statistically, ending up in a 99.99... % chance.

-> Personaly i dont need that much; 30% or even less would have been enough IMO.
It's always better if we can delay our "civilization" destruction by 100 years or so; it's maybe that kind of timing that could save our shitty specie :)

Im not sure at all it will be fixed anyway, 1 global war or very major crisis, and we are all good in finishing oil & coal stocks.

edit the study;

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212096314000163


Thanks for the input. I'm somewhat lacking in the whole climate change idea because I don't care to follow up on it much. Obviously I would like to see renewable energy sources become more prevalent, especially because I don't want my children to deal with the fallout of a toxic atmosphere in 50 years, but there's not much I can do. I sort of lean towards what is most beneficial for myself and my family at this point, and that's cheap heating and cooling, as well as gasoline. If they can give me better alternatives that reduce my carbon footprint, I'm all for it.
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May 22 2017 04:49pm
Global warming is bullshit. And all these little people that want to take your money for the cause of fighting global warming or save the enviroment are worse than scum. The earth fixes itself. when it gets too hot, it rains. The earth has been around for 4.5 billion years. Our time is extremely miniscule compared to that. What we do with pollution is not enough to worry about some giant catastrophe. Do you know how catastrophic a fucking asteriod could be? And yet the earth tanked that shit at some point in its history and it's still here. So please do not let the notion of global warming cause you to live in fear. It's the earth, it handles shit.

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May 22 2017 04:53pm
Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ May 22 2017 11:49pm)
Global warming is bullshit. And all these little people that want to take your money for the cause of fighting global warming or save the enviroment are worse than scum. The earth fixes itself. when it gets too hot, it rains. The earth has been around for 4.5 billion years. Our time is extremely miniscule compared to that. What we do with pollution is not enough to worry about some giant catastrophe. Do you know how catastrophic a fucking asteriod could be? And yet the earth tanked that shit at some point in its history and it's still here. So please do not let the notion of global warming cause you to live in fear. It's the earth, it handles shit.


I think people are more worried about the effects of climate change on the survival of our species, not the survival of the planet...
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Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ May 22 2017 06:53pm)
I think people are more worried about the effects of climate change on the survival of our species, not the survival of the planet...



A planet is not an organism so it cannot die. But it can br destroyed by being completely obliterated. Regardless of what enviromental disaster happens, if the planet is still here then the planet exists. That is not my original point. Still, your claim is a very good attempt of a strawman.

People care about the earth because we live on it. The fact that global warming is bullshit still stands.
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Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ May 22 2017 05:43pm)
A planet is not an organism so it cannot die. But it can br destroyed by being completely obliterated. Regardless of what enviromental disaster happens, if the planet is still here then the planet exists. That is not my original point. Still, your claim is a very good attempt of a strawman.

People care about the earth because we live on it. The fact that global warming is bullshit still stands.


Global warming will cause us to "not" live on it....

This post was edited by caswallen on May 22 2017 09:46pm
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May 24 2017 03:47pm
You have to be quite the denialist if you think that global warming isn't happening.
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Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ 23 May 2017 01:49)
Global warming is bullshit. And all these little people that want to take your money for the cause of fighting global warming or save the enviroment are worse than scum. The earth fixes itself. when it gets too hot, it rains. The earth has been around for 4.5 billion years. Our time is extremely miniscule compared to that. What we do with pollution is not enough to worry about some giant catastrophe. Do you know how catastrophic a fucking asteriod could be? And yet the earth tanked that shit at some point in its history and it's still here. So please do not let the notion of global warming cause you to live in fear. It's the earth, it handles shit.


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u must be card_sultan's lost cousin.

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