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Oct 21 2019 12:46pm
Quote (fender @ 18 Oct 2019 16:14)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMrL2LGzJuQ


He only sees his own perspective. Could the situation have been handled better, or did we even need to pull out at all? All of that is questionable. But are we always accountable for any1, even if we helped them and they helped us? No, we aren't.

I swear, you would be singing a diff story if it was you involved.
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Oct 21 2019 12:57pm
Quote (fender @ 18 Oct 2019 22:14)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMrL2LGzJuQ


The real English accent is so nice, pleasant, to hear.
Nothing surprising, not really hard to slam the clownshit-in-chief
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Oct 22 2019 11:12am
Quote (fender @ Oct 18 2019 02:49pm)
i'm honestly not quite sure if you're being serious there. the first part i actually agree with for the most part. while it seemed like mattis was one of the very few who dared to speak up from time to time (tillerson and kelly being the others), they clearly did not criticise him sufficiently while in office. the part about calling the draft dodger, who just took a massive stinking dump on your entire career of service, by his name and not 'president trump', however, is laughable. the pearl clutching and calls for 'civility' by, or on behalf of this administration are hilariously hypocritical considering the stuff they say and do on a near daily basis...


At the end of the day the American people elected the orange buffoon. It's the job of people in the administration to try to steer him in the right direction, and try to contain the damage. Criticizing your boss openly doesn't accomplish those things, because you'll just get fired. And even universally respected figures like Mattis and McRaven(seal commander during Bin Laden mission) who speak out against Trump immediately lose all credibility with his supporters, because it's a cult.

It's a little less defensible now that he's out of government to not criticize Trump directly, even though I like the idea in principle. But if you're going to go around on every news show to promote your book and refuse to criticize the president directly, don't make critical jokes either. Yes, Trump is going to talk shit because he's objectively a terrible and vindictive person. Responding with insults just lowers Mattis.
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Oct 22 2019 11:15am
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At the end of the day the American people elected the orange buffoon. It's the job of people in the administration to try to steer him in the right direction, and try to contain the damage. Criticizing your boss openly doesn't accomplish those things, because you'll just get fired. And even universally respected figures like Mattis and McRaven(seal commander during Bin Laden mission) who speak out against Trump immediately lose all credibility with his supporters, because it's a cult.

It's a little less defensible now that he's out of government to not criticize Trump directly, even though I like the idea in principle. But if you're going to go around on every news show to promote your book and refuse to criticize the president directly, don't make critical jokes either. Yes, Trump is going to talk shit because he's objectively a terrible and vindictive person. Responding with insults just lowers Mattis.


I just hope the Democrat nominee acts presidential as fuck and basically makes their debate line "do you really want 4 more years of that?". It'll grab a ton of moderates who dont like having a buffoon in the white house.
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Oct 22 2019 11:25am
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I just hope the Democrat nominee acts presidential as fuck and basically makes their debate line "do you really want 4 more years of that?". It'll grab a ton of moderates who dont like having a buffoon in the white house.


Unless of course you are wrong, like you always are. 4 more years of you losers crying. Can't wait.
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Oct 22 2019 11:30am
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Oct 22 2019 12:25pm)
Unless of course you are wrong, like you always are. 4 more years of you losers crying. Can't wait.


do you have any spells other than rank 1 firebolt?
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Oct 22 2019 11:34am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 22 2019 01:30pm)
do you have any spells other than rank 1 firebolt?


Why exert yourself when the bare minimum destroys.
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Oct 22 2019 11:44am
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Oct 22 2019 12:34pm)
Why exert yourself when the bare minimum destroys.


circles, even circle jerks, can have any diameter.
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Oct 22 2019 11:57am
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Oct 22 2019 10:25am)
Unless of course you are wrong, like you always are. 4 more years of you losers crying. Can't wait.


I think this is the problem with politics. If you want to watch people cry, be a Patriots fan.
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Oct 22 2019 12:03pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 22 2019 12:57pm)
I think this is the problem with politics. If you want to watch people cry, be a Patriots fan.


those people don't want to be involved in politics, they just want tears. like, no one wants to sell portable toilets for outside events, let alone empty out a weekends worth of granola shits from a rabid pack of hippies, but if it pays it pays.

people are imo too invested in politics, and it draws in the sharks. im not sure how to fix that, but i think thats the order of operations.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 22 2019 12:04pm
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