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May 26 2020 09:03pm
Im thinking they will have a shortened offseason potentially. With so much time off now, theres no reason the players need a full offseason of break just to play a couple post season games.

Also i dont think its fair to the teams eliminated that they are effectively off for almost an entire calendar year.
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May 26 2020 09:31pm
How the fuck are they going to do the Draft lottery BEFORE the play-in games even start? The play-in losers are going to have a chance at a top 3 pick before they even know they lost the play-in games
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Quote (Meatstick @ May 26 2020 11:31pm)
How the fuck are they going to do the Draft lottery BEFORE the play-in games even start? The play-in losers are going to have a chance at a top 3 pick before they even know they lost the play-in games



So basically , if one of those picks happens to hit top 3 then we will have 8 playoff series where the loser will have a 1/8 chance at the pick lol assuming they all own their own picks.
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Quote (Meatstick @ May 26 2020 08:31pm)
How the fuck are they going to do the Draft lottery BEFORE the play-in games even start? The play-in losers are going to have a chance at a top 3 pick before they even know they lost the play-in games


Theres two drawings,

they hold one with the 7 eliminated (18.5%, 13.5%, 11.5%, 9.5%, 8.5%, 7.5%, 6.5%) and 8 placeholders (6%, 5%, 3.5%, 3%, 2.5%. 2%, 1.5%, 1%).
If a placeholder wins a spot they draw for that spot with the 8 losers each receiving equal odds at getting it.

So if a placeholder wins #1, then after they determine who the loser are, each of those teams has an equal chance (12.5%) at the #1 pick.

I think Buttman said it works out in the end that each of the 8 losing teams have roughly 3% chance at the top pick.

This post was edited by Queefy on May 27 2020 11:45am
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Theres two drawings,

they hold one with the 7 eliminated (18.5%, 13.5%, 11.5%, 9.5%, 8.5%, 7.5%, 6.5%) and 8 placeholders (6%, 5%, 3.5%, 3%, 2.5%. 2%, 1.5%, 1%).
If a placeholder wins a spot they draw for that spot with the 8 losers each receiving equal odds at getting it.

So if a placeholder wins #1, then after they determine who the loser are, each of those teams has an equal chance (12.5%) at the #1 pick.

I think Buttman said it works out in the end that each of the 8 losing teams have roughly 3% chance at the top pick.



So basically there’s a 25% chance a placeholder team wins the top pick, same as the Sens who own both 29 and 30th place odds

Seems pretty rigged. As of now, teams like Leafs, Pens, Oilers all have a chance at it... also a chance at the cup (lol)

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So basically there’s a 25% chance a placeholder team wins the top pick, same as the Sens who own both 29 and 30th place odds

Seems pretty rigged. As of now, teams like Leafs, Pens, Oilers all have a chance at it... also a chance at the cup (lol)


Yup, its fuckin ridiculous tbh.
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May 27 2020 03:43pm
In this draft... Noone will be able to draft #1 and win the cup... Not sure where people are pulling that from... Also... It doesn't look like any odds changed from what you guys were already going to have.

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:)
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In this draft... Noone will be able to draft #1 and win the cup... Not sure where people are pulling that from... Also... It doesn't look like any odds changed from what you guys were already going to have.


No but teams with a legitimate shot at the cup could. For example Pittsburgh, if they lose could end up drafting #1 despite being the 7th best team in the league.

And yeah the odds remain the same, but also they dont at the same time, because 1 placeholder represents ALL the losers, and theres 8 which combine for nearly 25% (and thats just for the #1 pick, theres an 80% chance that a play-in loser picks in the top 3), then the odds are split between all the losers to 12.5% equally.

So unlike in other years where each team would have a 6% chance or less, theres a 25% chance one of the losers will get the top pick instead of an individually assigned percentage by team.

Thats how i understand it anyways. Im by no means a mathematician.


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So in short, no a team can not win the cup and #1 pick, but serious contenders such as pittsburgh, toronto, could end up with the #1 pick (or a top 3 pick) to further bolster their team and chances at future cups for years down the round

This post was edited by Queefy on May 27 2020 04:45pm
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Quote (Meatstick @ May 27 2020 01:18pm)
So basically there’s a 25% chance a placeholder team wins the top pick, same as the Sens who own both 29 and 30th place odds

Seems pretty rigged. As of now, teams like Leafs, Pens,Oilers all have a chance at it... also a chance at the cup (lol)


1st overall incoming.

In a all seriousness it sounds like a raw deal for the 7 teams who are not going to get a chance to play their way into the playoffs.

I really hope those who get no opportunity to play themselves into the post-season end up with the first three picks.

The entire format is flawed, but that is to be expected under these scenarios.

In all honesty resuming the season it bush league and reeks of desperation but I should not complain because I know I will be watching.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on May 27 2020 07:45pm
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