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May 25 2013 04:53pm
Quote (bnrhodes2 @ May 25 2013 05:07pm)
just out of curiosity, are those your raw lifts, or suited? (I thought I remember you mentioning doing suited stuff before)


on training:

have you ever played with wave sets before for strength/max attempts? and what are you thoughts even if you have or haven't done it before (based on the explanation below)?

i'm not sure if that is the correct name for it, but what i am referring to for example could be:
5x 65%
3x 80%
4x 70%
2x 85%
3x 75%
1x 90%
2x 80%
1x 100%

I don't remember the exact reps/percentages that I used a few years ago, but it was very similar to the example I believe. I think that point was to mess with CNS and I actually had my clean PR with it at the time.


Some raw some suited.

I'll be honest with you, I've never tried that before, and it looks like a cluster of confusing %s.

I feel like you'd waste a TON of strength/energy going up and down like that. I just do
whatever x bar
135x5-10
225x3-5
315x1
405x1
455x1
495x1
Max
Max
Max

That's if I'm doing a squat max, such as at a meet.
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May 25 2013 06:20pm
Lol yeah... I was the one "looking for a roommate". I was in Valdosta for college but not anymore.
Anyhow, here is my plan.

From assumption, a lot of trainers are extremely strict on diet since we all can agree that diet is the biggest factor in losing/gaining weight and healthiness. In today's society, I believe that we live to enjoy ourselves. That can range as far as to eating, and although healthy foods can be enjoyable, it is likewise that junk food is just as enjoyable as well. To each their own, we have our preference and its very unlikely that some of us don't want to eat healthy all the time as an enjoyable meal. We want to taste something different that a healthy meal wouldn't have in terms of taste-bud.

My proposition is to re-adjust their eating style rather than forcing them to eat healthy all the time. People just don't give a fuck, just like smoking, but it doesn't mean they have to be obese. I want to incorporate the daily food they want to eat ( because a want is much more fun in life than a need ) but reduce the amount of portion and substitute the rest in fruits and other condiments of healthy choices. Of course I would always encourage them to cook a healthy meal, as that is my goal but also understanding that we don't have to give up a certain category group of food known as "junk".

Personally I believe anything can be done simply based on their mentality even if the are eating shit food. What do you think about a trainer giving this type of "training". Do you think it will work ( I have yet to experiment but I have people who are willing to be test subjects ). To say the least, can we adjust the diet to balance healthy food with junk instead of all healthy food and still be able to achieve our goal in aesthetics or numbers in weight?
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May 25 2013 06:35pm
Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ May 25 2013 06:53pm)
Some raw some suited.

I'll be honest with you, I've never tried that before, and it looks like a cluster of confusing %s.

I feel like you'd waste a TON of strength/energy going up and down like that. I just do
whatever x bar
135x5-10
225x3-5
315x1
405x1
455x1
495x1
Max
Max
Max

That's if I'm doing a squat max, such as at a meet.


It wasn't that confusing really as there is a pattern.

We'll say for my example for hang clean:
5x195 65%
3x235 80%
4x205 70%
2x250 85%
3x220 75%
1x265 90%
2x235 80%
1x295 100%

So, if you tease it apart, it would be like doing a set of 5,4,3,2 with increase of 10-15lbs interspersed with a set of 3,2,1,1 with increases of 15-30lbs. Your body actually can't perceive small changes in load very well when you are dealing with higher loads(surprisingly - at least according to Weber's Law), so toward the end the weights start to mess with your head a bit when you are bouncing around with the percentages - it didn't get more difficult from my experience though.

The way you just described is very similar to how I've done maxes with squat/bench, which I never really plateaued on.
ex (my bench max - I liked having more gradual jumps in weight, as in never more than 60lbs between sets):
15xBar
12x95
10x135
8x195
4x255
2x315
1x345
1x365
1x385
1x405

I did get stuck with olympic lifts though, so my coach had me do the wave thing as described above for a few workouts when they stalled and it resulted in a PR.

I have presented this to both burns and boxa and one point or another in the past, and neither of them have dealt with it either. I just didn't think this was that "out there" for 3 of the more established lifters here to have never seen it/done it before.
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May 25 2013 08:19pm
Quote (7_Deadly_Sins @ May 26 2013 04:42am)
Shit head answer. Lose weight and get stronger

Actual advice, well that depends. Military people who want to be good specifically at pull ups would get different advice, so tell me if you want to be good at JUST pull ups, or better at pull ups in general.

t.


bulking to 105 so the weight is only gonna increase, not just pull ups, everything

pull ups specifically because im in a competition
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May 25 2013 09:05pm
Love it, John. Don't forget that you turn off the instinct to control the weight when you go big on deadlift..a woman with 150lb deadlifts is left with only 5 lbs to control it laterally, you still be around 150 lateral, maybe less..There's a civil war kicking up, John..write Air Force and Army generals and Navy admirals with your reasons you can make this place better and how you can help..my free weight? 965 standing on my shoulders in the cage...Love you man..

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May 25 2013 09:47pm
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Love it, John. Don't forget that you turn off the instinct to control the weight when you go big on deadlift..a woman with 150lb deadlifts is left with only 5 lbs to control it laterally, you still be around 150 lateral, maybe less..There's a civil war kicking up, John..write Air Force and Army generals and Navy admirals with your reasons you can make this place better and how you can help..my free weight? 965 standing on my shoulders in the cage...Love you man..


I'm 24 and what is this
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May 25 2013 09:57pm
I'm 21 and I just wanna grow a 1 or 2 inches :(
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May 25 2013 09:57pm
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I'm 21 and I just wanna grow a 1 or 2 inches :(


We all want to grow and inch or two ;) .
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May 25 2013 10:15pm
yoo currently prepping for a bb show.. tried to design my program so i can gain strengths while cutting down. doing a legs/push/pull/rest repeat thingy 3~ reps on bench squat n dead w accessory movements in the "hypertrophy" range on the first l/p/p/r then once i repeat i do all hypertrophy rep range stuffs.. completely dumb? any tips for helping me gain strenf and get ripped as hell?
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May 25 2013 11:50pm
Any thoughts on a stalling bench?

Training 5/3/1. 3.5-4k cals. Squat deadlift and even standing press have been increasing consistently but my bench has just been stuck right around 225 for a while now. Hesitant to change up programming too much because 5/3/1 has been working very well for my other lifts

Appreciate it
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