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KakeWalk
#21 Apr 5 2011 10:54pm
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Quote (-Kenny @ Apr 6 2011 12:40am)
What is the difference between muting and suffing? I have been working my mute skill up... about half way to the lvl 1 muting prof  (new to ls obv)


Muting is breaking down items into essences and using those essences to reroll an items stats.

Suff is using the essences to enhance other items like fish and glyphs. For fish it gives more life/mana per and for glyphs it adds time to the duration of the glyph

This post was edited by KakeWalk on Apr 5 2011 10:55pm
Svartermetalisk
#22 Apr 6 2011 09:38am
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Quote (Unthinkable @ Apr 5 2011 10:01pm)
waste of time


You play Ladder Slasher, you are by default banned from using the term "waste of time."

Heres my mutes:

Rare iron dagger
Level Req: 5
Damage: 49 to 86

+75% Enhanced Effect
+2 Life Regen

Rare steel dagger
Level Req: 10
Damage: 80 to 141

+99% Enhanced Effect
+3 Jubilance

Rare steel axe
Level Req: 10
Damage: 94 to 113

+97% Enhanced Effect
+1 to 3 Life per Kill

Rare alloy dagger
Level Req: 15
Damage: 89 to 156

+112% Enhanced Effect
+1% Glancing Blow

Mystical wild heal VI
Level Req: 15
Heals: 22 to 223
Mana Cost: 45

+98% Enhanced Effect
+5 Vitality
+2% Critical Flux

Rippeman
#23 Apr 6 2011 10:00am
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Berry in our guild has muted lvl 25 dagg 147ee
3x 30 axes 95-115ee
2x 35 axes 110+
-Kenny
#24 Apr 6 2011 10:06am
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Quote (KakeWalk @ Apr 5 2011 10:54pm)
Muting is breaking down items into essences and using those essences to reroll an items stats.

Suff is using the essences to enhance other items like fish and glyphs. For fish it gives more life/mana per and for glyphs it adds time to the duration of the glyph


thanks.
doginal
#25 Apr 6 2011 12:15pm
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Quote (TexanDiablo @ 5 Apr 2011 16:19)
I made this thread on purpose so people with your views would see that it isnt "a waste of time".

Granted people are only able to do up to lvl 35 items right now, but as people have shown, there is some very nice items being made. In time people will be making 55s again, and then mutes will have value again also.

I am not dare suggesting everyone should do the muting skill, but there is no reason to not make a few fg and post items on the mp to help support the people who are making the items that you some day will want to buy to play with. Just because you do not want to spend the countless hours getting to 60 prof so you can make 55 items doesnt mean you have the right to condemn the skill in general for everyone else.

Some people love Catas, some love to do the MQs, some like to solo and some like to skill. Just because something in LS or in life is not your cup of tea doesnt mean it isnt invalid for everyone else....


Waste of time muting is. The only reason why i ever do it now is because i've already wasted this much time for it. I have 20 prof. I've spend the time trying it out and have gotten NOTHING for it.

In regards to making fg, how. I've spent probably 1000's between buying vaults on hc just to mute and buying hundreads of items for 1fg each. I've really gotten nothing for it. If i've sold 100fg worth of items muted i'd be surprised. The only time i started to make any fg was when i was muting for essences to sell but doing that i was gaining no prof and didn't have time to do anything else. Even still, i never made close to as much as i was spending on vaults.

So yes, a big waste of time
TexanDiablo
#26 Apr 6 2011 12:40pm
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Quote (doginal @ Apr 6 2011 01:15pm)
Waste of time muting is. The only reason why i ever do it now is because i've already wasted this much time for it. I have 20 prof. I've spend the time trying it out and have gotten NOTHING for it.

In regards to making fg, how. I've spent probably 1000's between buying vaults on hc just to mute and buying hundreads of items for 1fg each. I've really gotten nothing for it. If i've sold 100fg worth of items muted i'd be surprised. The only time i started to make any fg was when i was muting for essences to sell but doing that i was gaining no prof and didn't have time to do anything else. Even still, i never made close to as much as i was spending on vaults.

So yes, a big waste of time


Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Apr 6 2011 10:38am)
You play Ladder Slasher, you are by default banned from using the term "waste of time."


Well put

Doginal......your missing the point imo......you have done the hardest part so far......Its not till you can do lvl 20 + items where you start paying off and your at 15s now.... an 100 ee lvl 15 is worth a few fg, not to mention 25 to 30 stat CHarms and RObes......Muting is a skill where you need to be in for the long haul, its the goal of making them 200 ee lvl 55s ( in 2 years granted lol ).....but look up in this thread at all the nice items being made right now.....

The most I have made on an item so far is 100 fg for my lvl 5 dagger, but I have seen some so so Close hits that would have been so sweet....last night I hit a lvl 15 wild heal with str,deX and hm, just had low stats....but that "COULD HAVE BEEN" a 60 stat Charm with 30 hm....some day just hitting a 100 ee out of 280 possible on an item will be 1,000+ fg making up for many levels of buying mutes.

buying the mutes on the mp really isnt a big deal......for 20 to 21 prof I need just 600 mutes, thats only 300 items......so 300 fg is easy to recover with just 1 item hitting......take like 35 hrs to burn up those mutes also.....its not really that big of a sink.....I sell one item I dont use for 2k fg thats going to get me 5 to 6 prof levels.....and we all have a few items like that laying around....

I wanted people to be able to see this thread and know muting is viable and show a few of us will get there some day and are already making good things.......I know it Can be frustrating, I am your same level and I have no one feeding me any items....I buy it all.....This is not an over night thing for sure, but in the long run, you will make good things if stick with it....easy example above.....lvl 35 dagger 172 ee !!!



GunslingerOfOld
#27 Apr 6 2011 05:05pm
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NEW muting SYSTEM BEST MUTES

Mythical seamist robe
Level Req: 30
Physical Defense: 0 to 23
Magical Defense: 44 to 132

+105% Enhanced Effect
+496 Max Mana
+1 Extra Equipment Slots
+2% Parry
+26% Heal Mastery 3/11/11 7:18 am est

Magical lightning IX
Level Req: 30
Spell Damage: 9 to 96
Mana Cost: 69

+35 Dexterity 03/01/2011 2:05 am est sold for 260 fg

Epic lightning III
Spell Damage: 3 to 36
Mana Cost: 21

+8 Strength
+11 Dexterity
+165 Max Life
+85 Max Mana
+1 Life Regen
+1% Magical Damage Reduction
+1% Mana Syphon
+1% Mana Skin
+1% Power Shot 03/07/2011 1:32 am est



Mystical lightning VIII
Level Req: 25
Spell Damage: 21 to 212
Mana Cost: 61

+121% Enhanced Effect
+1 Critical Strike
+4% Mind Numb 2/26/11 6:00 am sold for 175 fg

Magical lightning VIII
Level Req: 25
Spell Damage: 9 to 96
Mana Cost: 61

+37 Dexterity 1:12 am est 2/12/11 sold vs 1k


Angelic imbued leather armor
Level Req: 30
Physical Defense: 29 to 89
Magical Defense: 27 to 109

+151% Enhanced Effect
+1 to 2 Life per Attack
+1 to 8 Mana per Kill
+21% Heal Mastery 1/16/11 4:32 pm est 1750 fg


Rare lightning VIII
Level Req: 25
Spell Damage: 19 to 197
Mana Cost: 61

+106% Enhanced Effect
+42 Max Mana 12/24/2010 7:40 pm est 125 fg


Rare lightning IX,
level Req. 30
Spell Damage: 23 to 239

+122% Enhanced Effect
+1% Magical Damage Reduction 12/24/2010 6:10 pm est

Rare lightning VIII,
Level Req: 25
Spell Damage: 9 to 98,

+40 Strength,
+2% Armor Pierce 3:15 12/04/2010 1550 fg

Angelic lightning VIII
Level Req: 25
Spell Damage: 9 to 96
Mana Cost: 61

+11% Experience Gained
+2 Mana Regen
+2% Physical Damage Reduction
+30% Heal Mastery 10:50 am 09/26/2010 120 fg

Magical wild heal VII
Level Req: 20
Heals: 30 to 302
Mana Cost: 53

+140% Enhanced Effect
1:21 am est 8/26/2010 2700 fg

Magical wild heal VII
Level Req: 20
Heals: 26 to 260
Mana Cost: 53

+109% Enhanced Effect 3:42 am est 8/19/2010 75 fg

Magical wild heal VII
Level Req: 20
Heals: 12 to 123
Mana Cost: 53

+30 Intelligence 10: 25 pm est 8/15/2010 20 fg

Mythical wild heal VI
Level Req: 15
Heals: 20 to 200
Mana Cost: 45

+95% Enhanced Effect
+1 Mana Regen
+2 Extra Equipment Slots
+1% Critical Flux
+2% Glancing Blow 4:40 pm est 8/11/2010 50 fg

Rare fine alloy dagger
Level Req: 20
Damage: 32 to 56

+23 Vitality
+31 Intelligence 523 pm Est 8/10/2010 175 fg

Mystical lightning III
Spell Damage: 11 to 116

+60% Enhanced Effect
+9 Strength
+1% Damage Return 2/20/10 3:43 pm est 30 fg

Rare fine alloy dagger
Damage: 70 to 122
+118% Enhanced Effect
+5% Mana Syphon 5/23/10 3:30 est 550 fg

Arcane focused heal VI
Heals: 98 to 117

+90% Enhanced Effect
+25 Strength
+3% Experience Gained
+2 Extra Equipment Slots
+2% Critical Flux
+1% Quick Draw 5/23/10 4:12 est 750 fg


Godly lightning III
Spell Damage: 7 to 73

+49% Enhanced Effect
+248 Max Mana, +1 Life Regen
+1 Mana Regen
+2 Critical Strike
+1 to 3 Mana per Attack
+1 to 4 Mana per Kil
+1% Damage Return sold versus 500fg

40 int 3 vit lvl 30 robe muted by GunslingerOfOld. I own it now. forget when i muted this the owner should just track that down in the guild chat considering the dealio i gave him on it so i can add it to my list.
TexanDiablo
#28 Apr 6 2011 05:55pm
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Thanks for sharing that list. Many nice items there.
Toomin
#29 Apr 6 2011 09:15pm
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Arcane focused heal VI
Heals: 98 to 117

+90% Enhanced Effect
+25 Strength
+3% Experience Gained
+2 Extra Equipment Slots
+2% Critical Flux
+1% Quick Draw 5/23/10 4:12 est 750 fg

I bought this and love it.

I wish i had a 55 with the same relative stats:

210ee
52 str
12 xp gain
GunslingerOfOld
#30 Apr 6 2011 09:21pm
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Quote (Toomin @ Apr 6 2011 10:15pm)
Arcane focused heal VI
Heals: 98 to 117

+90% Enhanced Effect
+25 Strength
+3% Experience Gained
+2 Extra Equipment Slots
+2% Critical Flux
+1% Quick Draw 5/23/10 4:12 est 750 fg

I bought this and love it.

I wish i had a 55 with the same relative stats:

210ee
52 str
12 xp gain


yeah i was tempted to keep it. but alas i didnt need it that much at the time. but what i do wish i had was fg. doante if u really love it lmfao.
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