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All skill proficiencies used at a level lower than your current rank now have a diminishing return chance to still gain proficiency points (Jun 11 2020)

Also keep in mind that there's only a chance to return proficiency points on lower level items than your current rank.

So while you have a chance to gain those (1-15) points it seems to vary on your current rank versus the tier of the item.
Example:
Rank 45 muting a tier 5 item generally returns no prof at all or a range from 1-5 points in my experience.
Rank 45 muting a tier 9 item (1 rank below my guaranteed prof tier) more often than not returns 5-15 points.

Does my example seem somewhat consistent to what other muters have experienced? (the range of the +points is what I'm interested here)

This post was edited by JonWon on Jul 3 2020 07:43am
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Jul 3 2020 08:19am
Quote (JonWon @ 3 Jul 2020 09:32)
All skill proficiencies used at a level lower than your current rank now have a diminishing return chance to still gain proficiency points (Jun 11 2020)

Also keep in mind that there's only a chance to return proficiency points on lower level items than your current rank.

So while you have a chance to gain those (1-15) points it seems to vary on your current rank versus the tier of the item.
Example:
Rank 45 muting a tier 5 item generally returns no prof at all or a range from 1-5 points in my experience.
Rank 45 muting a tier 9 item (1 rank below my guaranteed prof tier) more often than not returns 5-15 points.

Does my example seem somewhat consistent to what other muters have experienced? (the range of the +points is what I'm interested here)


My current minimum is lvl 10 arcane and I am very consistently getting 10-12 prof points for lvl 10 magical
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Quote (JonWon @ 3 Jul 2020 15:32)
All skill proficiencies used at a level lower than your current rank now have a diminishing return chance to still gain proficiency points (Jun 11 2020)

Also keep in mind that there's only a chance to return proficiency points on lower level items than your current rank.

So while you have a chance to gain those (1-15) points it seems to vary on your current rank versus the tier of the item.
Example:
Rank 45 muting a tier 5 item generally returns no prof at all or a range from 1-5 points in my experience.
Rank 45 muting a tier 9 item (1 rank below my guaranteed prof tier) more often than not returns 5-15 points.

Does my example seem somewhat consistent to what other muters have experienced? (the range of the +points is what I'm interested here)


I break down quite alot of t5s and i dont get prof at all from those, when i do t7s it happens that i get 1prof every now and then
when i do t9s i get 20+ most of the time (i only do myst+ for that rank atm only to get essence) same rank as you.

The deminishing return isnt just by tier, it's on the magical levels on ranks, so if u go back 1 rank and do the same items u did the rank before for minimum u basicly get 77.9% prof of what you get on ur current minimum rank.

This post was edited by NR1 on Jul 3 2020 10:38am
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Jul 3 2020 12:27pm
Arcane lightning IV
Level Req: 5
Spell Damage: 4 to 46
Mana Cost: 29

+20 Strength
+1 to 2 Life per Attack
+1 to 7 Mana per Kill
+1% Critical Flux
+1% Heal Mastery
+2 Jubilance
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Quote (NR1 @ Jul 3 2020 12:37pm)
I break down quite alot of t5s and i dont get prof at all from those, when i do t7s it happens that i get 1prof every now and then
when i do t9s i get 20+ most of the time (i only do myst+ for that rank atm only to get essence) same rank as you.

The deminishing return isnt just by tier, it's on the magical levels on ranks, so if u go back 1 rank and do the same items u did the rank before for minimum u basicly get 77.9% prof of what you get on ur current minimum rank.

Thanks for this info :)
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Jul 3 2020 02:10pm
Quote (pwb3 @ Jul 3 2020 02:27pm)
Arcane lightning IV
Level Req: 5
Spell Damage: 4 to 46
Mana Cost: 29

+20 Strength
+1 to 2 Life per Attack
+1 to 7 Mana per Kill
+1% Critical Flux
+1% Heal Mastery
+2 Jubilance


Very nice
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Jul 3 2020 07:35pm
Short list of what gives me prof atm

I'm Rank: 45
Before Update: Magical 35s was the minimum for prof


Level 25s

1x Magical(1): Gave me; +0
1x Rare(2): Gave me; +0
1x Mystical(3): Gave me; +1
1x Angelic(4): Gave me; +1
1x Mythical(5): Gave me; +1
2x Arcane(6): Gave me; +1 & +2
1x Legendary(7): Gave me; +1

____


Level 30s

1x Magical(1): Gave me; +3
1x Rare(2): Gave me; +9
1x Mystical(3): Gave me; +8
2x Mythical(5): Gave me; +10 & +xx (looked away for too long...)
2x Arcane(6): Gave me; +15 & +19 | AVG = 17
1x Legendary(7): Gave me; +19 & +21 | AVG = 20

____

Level 35s

11x Magical(1): Gave me; +40, +37, +33, +43, +37, +39, +33, +29, +36, +44 & +34 | AVG = 36,82
1x Rare(2): Gave me; +35


This post was edited by NR1 on Jul 3 2020 09:20pm
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Quote (JonWon @ Jul 3 2020 08:55am)
If anything it's a bit slower for higher ranks and the same for lower ranks. Because the essences you break down cannot be used again to reroll and gain exp on like it used to be... this isn't a big deal for lower mute ranks because there's an abundance of tier1-tier10 to strip. For higher ranks even tho your range of muting low level tiers is broader, the +exp you get is minimal. Like (1-15) versus (40-65 guaranteed)

But in SZSZ's current rank (67) he's an exception because his rank is so high. Before the update he needed Angelic 55's just to gain proficiency whatsoever, which those are obviously hard to come by. with the current change now he is able to gain prof on those lower tier items to at least slowly gain points where he never could before.

Tldr SZSZ was in a good position before the update, and now he's literally in the most beneficial position of any muter in the game.


i get 1-9 for magical 55's, 1-16 for rare/mystical 55's, and 10-24 for angelic+ lvl 55's. i havent gotten higher than 24 prof on a couple godlies i did. before the patch wasnt much difference for the angelic+'s....i think i got a 34 prof mute once in a while, but never higher and most fell in the 10-25 range.
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Jul 4 2020 08:45am
Quote (NR1 @ Jul 3 2020 09:35pm)
Short list of what gives me prof atm

I'm Rank: 45
Before Update: Magical 35s was the minimum for prof


Level 25s

1x Magical(1): Gave me; +0
1x Rare(2): Gave me; +0
1x Mystical(3): Gave me; +1
1x Angelic(4): Gave me; +1
1x Mythical(5): Gave me; +1
2x Arcane(6): Gave me; +1 & +2
1x Legendary(7): Gave me; +1

____


Level 30s

1x Magical(1): Gave me; +3
1x Rare(2): Gave me; +9
1x Mystical(3): Gave me; +8
2x Mythical(5): Gave me; +10 & +xx (looked away for too long...)
2x Arcane(6): Gave me; +15 & +19 | AVG = 17
1x Legendary(7): Gave me; +19 & +21 | AVG = 20

____

Level 35s

11x Magical(1): Gave me; +40, +37, +33, +43, +37, +39, +33, +29, +36, +44 & +34 | AVG = 36,82
1x Rare(2): Gave me; +35


Very interesting. Ty for the data
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Jul 4 2020 11:51am
Quote (pwb3 @ Jul 3 2020 01:27pm)
Arcane lightning IV
Level Req: 5
Spell Damage: 4 to 46
Mana Cost: 29

+20 Strength
+1 to 2 Life per Attack
+1 to 7 Mana per Kill
+1% Critical Flux
+1% Heal Mastery
+2 Jubilance


Very nice :)

On a side note:
Maybe you guys should make a transmuting discussion thread and stop spamming the transmuting drop thread! :P
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