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Mar 24 2011 07:03pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Mar 24 2011 06:57pm)
If you don't want to pay taxes, just start a business on the side and take a loss on it until your taxes zero out.


A future goal, I do not have the financial capital to currently do this.
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Mar 24 2011 07:05pm
Quote (RITZ @ 24 Mar 2011 19:55)
Dodges to prove others wrong. :(


Thanks for throwing around the word dodge even though I did no such thing. :(
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Mar 24 2011 07:08pm
Quote (killgoreisleet @ Mar 24 2011 09:03pm)
A future goal, I do not have the financial capital to currently do this.


It costs $125 to register a business with limited liability (c-corp, s-corp, LLC) through sunbiz.org, and it's free to get an EIN from the IRS (and you can just be a sole proprietor and save the $125 and accept full business liability), and you can pretty much make your business charter "for any legal purpose" and cut grass or sell chewing gum and write off your losses.

Oh shit, you had to drive 50 miles to sell a piece of chewed chewing gum? Thats a $17.50 tax credit, bro.

Oh shit, you bought lunch? 50% of it gets written off.

Had to buy a hotel room for that hooker last week? Business travel.

Use your cell phone to plan chewing gum sales? Write the bills off.

Use the internet to do it? Free 'net for you, too.

Use a corner of your apartment to conduct business? Measure the square footage and deduct the percentage off the rent.

Took a loss this year and made negative dollars? No problem, IRS pays YOU.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Mar 24 2011 07:18pm
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Mar 24 2011 07:26pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Mar 24 2011 09:08pm)
It costs $125 to register a business with limited liability (c-corp, s-corp, LLC) through sunbiz.org, and it's free to get an EIN from the IRS (and you can just be a sole proprietor and save the $125 and accept full business liability), and you can pretty much make your business charter "for any legal purpose" and cut grass or sell chewing gum and write off your losses.

Oh shit, you had to drive 50 miles to sell a piece of chewed chewing gum? Thats a $17.50 tax credit, bro.

Oh shit, you bought lunch? 50% of it gets written off.

Had to buy a hotel room for that hooker last week? Business travel.

Use your cell phone to plan chewing gum sales? Write the bills off.

Use the internet to do it? Free 'net for you, too.

Use a corner of your apartment to conduct business? Measure the square footage and deduct the percentage off the rent.

Took a loss this year and made negative dollars? No problem, IRS pays YOU.


This would require much more than his usual 1040EZ form .
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Mar 24 2011 07:29pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 25 2011 01:26am)
This would require much more than his usual 1040EZ form .


indeed but it is a sweet gig.
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Mar 24 2011 07:48pm
Quote (JEB90 @ Mar 24 2011 11:31am)
Actually, avoiding this is exactly why we have taxes that we can't direct.  Who is going to pay for nuclear waste disposal?  Why would the rest of the country want to pay to clean up the Gulf oil spill or Hurricane Katrina?  What about the pothole in front of your house?  Or if your house is on fire?  The whole point is that we often need things that the people who benefit directly can't afford.  The promise is, that when you need something, then the government will be there to help you.  Btw--I already know I'm a godless, commie, pinko for suggesting transferring wealth is a legitimate role for government.  Save yourselves the rants.


This is a legitimate concern...

However, in theory, the citizen choice tax system (for lack of a better term) would dictate what kind of institutions would be implemented. To clarify, if people did not want to deal with paying for disposal of nuclear waste, they would put their tax dollars towards other forms of energy and nuclear plants would be shut down, nuclear waste disposal would eventually become a non-issue, and other forms of energy would be used instead. On the other hand, if the majority of people favoured nuclear energy, than the taxes collected to build/maintain nuclear plants would go towards nuclear waste disposal.

It would be rational to direct a portion of one's taxes towards infrastructure (potholes), fire services (house burning down), police, etc.

Any surpluses from these accounts could be directed to an emergency fund, that would be saved and maintained by the government, and spent when a disaster, such as Katrina or an oil spill occurred.

I'm not suggesting that this is a very pragmatic concept...it requires people to be rational...and not just assume because that their neighbor will most likely put some tax dollars towards the infrastructure fund, that they could put all their money towards the education fund, or whatever.

Again, on the other hand, it would allow for the citizens to choose how the government spends its money...and, in theory, it should represent the public services that would benefit them (the citizens) the most.

An argument such as this is usually not something I would contend myself...as it is almost certainly unrealistic and unattainable...and I do agree that in practice, the government is needed to disperse wealth as its sees fit...hopefully, in the interests of the citizens of the state.

However...like I said...it's still an interesting concept that could be explored further.
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