Quote (piatek @ 15 Oct 2020 20:02)
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself. Ramos was the key reason Madrid had the best defensive record in Europe last season
I would have summed it up simply by stating.
Rael Madrid 3-1 Liverfool.
Both ramos and vvd on pitch.
Quote (dro94 @ 15 Oct 2020 20:25)
Ramos also plays next to Varane who is levels above Gomez and Matip, so his defensive record should be better despite not being as good as VVD.
Dunno what to say, in the champions league final matip was head and shoulders above vvd when defending. Arguably fabinho too.