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Oct 28 2024 06:48am
Since the new WW change I really haven't played much but going to get back into it and a build a sin. What is the ias BP I need on my main hand claw? And does it matter what wep I have for eg feral with deep/fools ?
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Oct 28 2024 08:10am
Your wepon base matter.
Each wep counts attackspeed break with its own internal WSM/ias and off wepon ias and external stuff like SLOW/Fana/Bos etc.

So ur main hand:
Main hand wsm considered, main hand ias + off wepon ias considered, slow considered, skillias considered.

offhand claw:
Offhand wsm considered, offhand ias + off wepon ias considered, slow considered skillias considered.

This leaves you in a situation where one claw can be forexample 4 fpa, and other 5fpa.

Use this calc:
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/
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Quote (gel87 @ Oct 29 2024 12:10am)
Your wepon base matter.
Each wep counts attackspeed break with its own internal WSM/ias and off wepon ias and external stuff like SLOW/Fana/Bos etc.

So ur main hand:
Main hand wsm considered, main hand ias + off wepon ias considered, slow considered, skillias considered.

offhand claw:
Offhand wsm considered, offhand ias + off wepon ias considered, slow considered skillias considered.

This leaves you in a situation where one claw can be forexample 4 fpa, and other 5fpa.

Use this calc:
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/


I'm not sure I understand the fields in the calculator , for whirlwind 4fpa using both claws...
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Oct 28 2024 11:43pm
For a hybrid its best to use runic talons base since that’s the fastest claw base. Best to hit trap speed and ww speed. 45ias for Runic gets best frames for both I believe.
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Quote (Gosu_god87 @ Oct 28 2024 11:00pm)
I'm not sure I understand the fields in the calculator , for whirlwind 4fpa using both claws...


left field = main claw (glove side)
Right field = secondary claw (boot side)
Middel field = confusing for most, its basicly adds more breakpoints as it shows breakpoint each time there is a change in either of the two claws. So basicly a combination of left and right table.

Aaaaaand this:
Quote (HiTMoNChaN @ Oct 29 2024 06:43am)
For a hybrid its best to use runic talons base since that’s the fastest claw base. Best to hit trap speed and ww speed. 45ias for Runic gets best frames for both I believe.


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Quote (HiTMoNChaN @ Oct 29 2024 12:43am)
For a hybrid its best to use runic talons base since that’s the fastest claw base. Best to hit trap speed and ww speed. 45ias for Runic gets best frames for both I believe.


generally this is wrong.
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Quote (CoooleyNeedsRogaine @ Oct 31 2024 02:17pm)
generally this is wrong.


Elaborate ?
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Quote (Gosu_god87 @ Oct 30 2024 11:48pm)
Elaborate ?


In your 102 build, you will such little ed% modifiers, scaling your physical damage portion by using a runic talon is not a wise choice.

A fools greater talon of quickness with 3ls and 2 sockets is better than a 40ias/300ed/erep/fools 1 socket runic talon

In your 65 setup? Where you are trying to scale your physics damage, runic has the lowest physical damage on any elite claw, coupled with the fact that in 65 FCR, you are using highlords, making it easy for you to hit both the trap ias bp and the WW ias bp with slower claws that have more damage such as wrist sword or feral.

However, it’s important to realize that it’s all about claw availability and budget constraints as to what is the best route for your specific use case.

For example, I have both the #1 and #2 hybrid claws on the game for 65 FCR setup
#1
2sin
40ias
426 ED
229 AR
Eth
Repairs durability
Wrist sword


#2
2 sin
40ias
277 Ed
Fools
11 Str
3 LS
3 MB
Runic talon not eth

In your 65 setup, it’s important that your claw scales your LS damage as well. Without good LS damage, you end up being a shitty ghost with both less damage output and less survivability

Hybrid is extremely complex and very few know how to build one to maximize it.

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