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May 23 2023 05:00am
What is the optimum % for dodge evade and avoid?

Zon is hybrid faith/ titans ss build not lightening build

I've played around maxing each passive skill but I get best results putting 10-12 points in all 3 but still unsure what works best

I usually max crit strike is it worth it or overkill??

does a zon need fhr ?

Just confirming the ias needed for faith diamond bow with 14-15 fanat is 65% ??

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May 23 2023 05:06pm
As bowa, nn a lot of dae. Avoid needs most, the ranged one. Critical strike is last skill point dump, but should have a lot anyway.
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May 23 2023 06:00pm
Quote (Taurean @ May 24 2023 08:06am)
As bowa, nn a lot of dae. Avoid needs most, the ranged one. Critical strike is last skill point dump, but should have a lot anyway.


Why no need for dae for bowa?
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Quote (LifesToShortToBeSmall @ 24 May 2023 02:00)
Why no need for dae for bowa?


Because it's a ranged character. In hardcore it is more relevant as a safety measure. But then again mostly avoid, the ranged attack evasion skill. Better to spend the points on other skills.
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Quote (Taurean @ May 24 2023 10:13am)
Because it's a ranged character. In hardcore it is more relevant as a safety measure. But then again mostly avoid, the ranged attack evasion skill. Better to spend the points on other skills.


Sorry for not specifying but this is pvp build only not pvm regardless of range in pvp peps are on ya ass as a zon
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Quote (LifesToShortToBeSmall @ May 24 2023 03:19am)
Sorry for not specifying but this is pvp build only not pvm regardless of range in pvp peps are on ya ass as a zon


Max ur damage and critic and such first. Then remaining into dodge. Use a planner or something to see what skill distribution is best. Im always a hybrid or trihybrid, so for me i always use them as 1 point wonders, but then again i have more + ama skill levels. Enigma and 2 ama in diadem is already 4 more skill to all 3. So thats like 12 skillpoints saved. I also use fcr ammu instead of hl so i have 3 more skills saved there.

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Jun 2 2023 09:48pm
23 for CS/E
20 for A
19 for D

You start seeing diminishing returns at the higher levels for these skills (3+ points for a 1% gain)

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Jun 4 2023 08:39am
Quote (alexisonfire678 @ Jun 3 2023 05:48am)
23 for CS/E
20 for A
19 for D

You start seeing diminishing returns at the higher levels for these skills (3+ points for a 1% gain)

https://i.imgur.com/1zHtUwn.png


Why not 24 critic, 24 evade, 20 dodge? Or 23 critic, 22 evade, 20 avoid, 18 dodge?
Cause 19 dodge = Same as 18, so would rather use 18 then...
Cause 23 evade = Same as lvl 22 evade

According to the table u posted u put 2 extra wasted skills which dont improve %. (Evade and Dodge)
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Quote (gel87 @ Jun 4 2023 07:39am)
Why not 24 critic, 24 evade, 20 dodge? Or 23 critic, 22 evade, 20 avoid, 18 dodge?
Cause 19 dodge = Same as 18, so would rather use 18 then...
Cause 23 evade = Same as lvl 22 evade

According to the table u posted u put 2 extra wasted skills which dont improve %. (Evade and Dodge)


I chose 23CS/23E/20A/19D because the following level shows a % increase which you'll get from battle command.

At higher levels for these PM skills, the intervals between the next % increase is 2-3 levels - it's optimal to skill to the interval endpoints so battle command bumps you to the next % increase.

Ex. for evade the optimal slvls are 1-13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 26, 28. Other slvls do not take advantage of BC +1 skill.
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Quote (alexisonfire678 @ Jun 4 2023 08:18pm)
I chose 23CS/23E/20A/19D because the following level shows a % increase which you'll get from battle command.

At higher levels for these PM skills, the intervals between the next % increase is 2-3 levels - it's optimal to skill to the interval endpoints so battle command bumps you to the next % increase.

Ex. for evade the optimal slvls are 1-13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 26, 28. Other slvls do not take advantage of BC +1 skill.


ah ye i see. I usually count in bc. Ofc i would skill with loss of bc in mind if it did not penatalize other important skills. But i would make sure im always boed and bced.
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