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Apr 17 2023 05:55am
When you say you prefer performance, mind I ask in what category(ies)?

4090 listed as a must, respectable. Gaming only? Gaming + Working with AI, GPU leveraging, etc.? Media editing/rendering? Reason I ask is this ties into which direction you go with regards to a processor/motherboard combination.

Picking the most expensive of either Intel or AMD is certainly an option with your budget range, but you can get away with more power on less spend with a purpose driven build :)

If you're only planning on gaming and not wanting to leverage the machine for multi-tasking, streaming/recording, or media editing -- you have some options that outperform their higher dollar counterparts in the gaming specific space. The AMD CPUs with the x3D mark have been shown and tested to perform noticeably better framerate wise in a plethora of games.

If you'd like to branch into that multi-tasking realm, or even desktop based server operations (local homelab, studying for an IT cert/degree, etc.), AMD has the Ryzen 9 79XX line which ranges in the 12-16 core / 24-32 thread territory. While that is less to nearly completely irrelevant to gaming, it provides more beef and juice for running and processing multiple workloads at once without running into CPU steal or waiting. If you're extra crafty and spend some time with system tuning and tweaking, you can get a high core count system running on a moderately low voltage in a nice cool and stable fashion.

More details provided about intended use-case, comfort levels with assembly (do you feel comfortable assembling a custom waterloop? do you have any mechanical skills that translate to modifying your case/tower e.g. welding, metalworking, electrician skills, etc.) so on), and if you have any hobbies that could/would benefit from having a tailored system rather than a general-use build will allow for a more detailed response. I'll note that my own personal most recent builds have all been AMD builds, so I'm less familiar with the Intel specifics though I have a fair amount of hands-on experience troubleshooting and configuring them through other people's builds. This has no real indication of me having preference to either brand, it came down to cost to performance ratio and deals at time of purchase. Both companies offer fantastic pieces of hardware for their uses, and they also both offer absolute crap value hardware for the prices, just gotta do as much research as you can :)

Sorry for the wall of text, but hopefully my ~20 years of building systems and working with consumer/personal desktops as well as hobby/enterprise servers can provide some useful knowledge to someone out there who may be curious like I was all those years ago.
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May 7 2023 04:22pm
Quote (conetopia @ Apr 8 2023 01:34am)
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6HbZNc
This is somewhat the idea of what it will look like, you can add extra lights / replace front fans .

The Thermal Paste pre-applied to the water cooler is fine, otherwise you could use something like Noctua to lower the Temps, but it will only be like a 2-3 C Temp Difference at most.
Sometimes hard to apply enough just right.

Maybe instead of 2x 32" monitors, get a 49" Ultra Wide.

The Cooling is pretty nice, Max Gaming even on the hottest summer days.


How you going to spend that type of $$ and not cable manage, o_O yikers
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May 7 2023 10:33pm
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How you going to spend that type of $$ and not cable manage, o_O yikers

Because I set it up to work Temporarily, until New power supply & Card was in stock.
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Quote (adeatt @ May 7 2023 04:22pm)
How you going to spend that type of $$ and not cable manage, o_O yikers


loooool

my eyes :rofl:
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May 8 2023 11:07am
You don't needt o purchase windows for that price we all know you can get windows 11 cheaper.
I included it though.
If you're strictly gaming and not running any intensive CPU dedicated applications such as video editing or photoshop rendering.
The Ryzen 7800 x3d is your best bet even over the i9 13xxx. The Ryzen 7800x3d even beats out Ryzen 9's in a strictly gaming format.

Here's my current build I'm working on now. I added some fluff to it to try and get to 5k since you demand it but wont need it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3XbJ6r


Not just fanboying but the Ryzen7-7800x3d is the perfect gaming chip to date over the i9 and Ryzen 9 series

This post was edited by lolkggz on May 8 2023 11:20am
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Quote (lolkggz @ May 8 2023 11:07am)
You don't needt o purchase windows for that price we all know you can get windows 11 cheaper.
I included it though.
If you're strictly gaming and not running any intensive CPU dedicated applications such as video editing or photoshop rendering.
The Ryzen 7800 x3d is your best bet even over the i9 13xxx. The Ryzen 7800x3d even beats out Ryzen 9's in a strictly gaming format.

Here's my current build I'm working on now. I added some fluff to it to try and get to 5k since you demand it but wont need it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3XbJ6r


Not just fanboying but the Ryzen7-7800x3d is the perfect gaming chip to date over the i9 and Ryzen 9 series


Don't let the i9 13900KS hear this
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May 28 2023 06:16pm
Quote (TLong426 @ 7 Apr 2023 20:21)
Budget: $5,000

Build Must include Windows 11 USB (135.99) Need (CPU, CPU Cooler (Prefer 420mm Arctic Liquid Freezer II), Motherboard, atleast 64gb of Ram (Preferably 32x2), SSD Only (4TB), 4090 is a must, Prefer a case to keep parts cool with good airflow, Prefer Titanium rated PSU, need thermal paste, and/or fans if build does not have sufficient fans. I prefer performance over appearance.
https://i.imgur.com/lzDxXxN.png


Most of that stuff you don't need.
Titanium rated, nope.
4TB SSD, hell no.
64GB of ram is overkill. You'll be fine with 32GB for years.
Download windows 11 for free...
Instead of a 4090 you could get dual 4080 TIs.
You don't need an extreme processed but more L3 cache helps with gaming.

Good luck. Don't overspend on stuff you won't use or need.

Quote (MadMardi @ 13 Apr 2023 16:47)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c6zc9r

I don't know if you're OK to watercool yourself, but imo if you're spending that much $$$ I'd custom loop it

EKWB or DazMode/FrozenCPU

Distroplate+Pump combo for Dynamic Evo, block, tubing, fittings, etc (no need to custom loop GPU but still within budget, can just do CPU for decent price)

Leaves you with enough money to custom loop without sacrificing any performance/parts

GL on whatever you do


Custom loops get expensive as hell. You could spend 1500 water cooling something if you have to buy all the parts from scratch.

This post was edited by NinjaSushi on May 28 2023 06:24pm
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May 28 2023 06:18pm
Quote (conetopia @ 8 Apr 2023 00:34)
https://i.gyazo.com/b78bac0344c8b93f9256a3b339d3208e.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/9880625abda72c368f6ce6cb487eaf99.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/30745ecd555ce4ea475f46f025ea6427.jpg


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6HbZNc
This is somewhat the idea of what it will look like, you can add extra lights / replace front fans .

The Thermal Paste pre-applied to the water cooler is fine, otherwise you could use something like Noctua to lower the Temps, but it will only be like a 2-3 C Temp Difference at most.
Sometimes hard to apply enough just right.

Maybe instead of 2x 32" monitors, get a 49" Ultra Wide.

The Cooling is pretty nice, Max Gaming even on the hottest summer days.


Ew what... Why those monitors and a headset? Some questionable items you've selected.

Quote (adeatt @ 7 May 2023 17:22)
How you going to spend that type of $$ and not cable manage, o_O yikers


Only you ever see cable management. It's personal preference.
If doing a job professionally then clean up after yourself.
If working on your own pc, shove it towards the back, zip tie it together, and throw the door on.

PC gamers spend so much time and effort on silly things.

This post was edited by NinjaSushi on May 28 2023 06:27pm
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May 29 2023 09:22am
Quote (NinjaSushi @ May 28 2023 06:16pm)
Custom loops get expensive as hell. You could spend 1500 water cooling something if you have to buy all the parts from scratch.


They certainly do. If someone's willing to drop this amount of money on a rig, I'd go for the custom loop vs. over spending on components that are overkill to truly have a unique, personal build.
But custom loop isn't for everyone that's for sure.

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May 31 2023 06:37pm
Eh. I can see justifying a custom loop based on the price of the base computer for sure but I'd rather have something that performs better at the task it's set out to do. I used to do water cooling when I was younger. It was fun but waaaaaaayyyy overpriced. Now I'm more about practicality rather than showing off.


@everyone

Showing off is expensive and only other people who show off care. Remember that lesson. The only people who care about your flex are those trying to flex on you themselves. Lol
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