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May 29 2026 08:12pm
might be a dumb question but like griff they don’t effect trap damage correct?
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May 30 2026 01:14am
Griffs and sunders both affect trap damage.
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May 30 2026 05:30am
Griffs and sunders both affect trap damage.


Really hmm. I thought I remember something about traps not being affected by the - / + damage on griffons … I could be mistaken it’s been a long time since I made a sin.
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Really hmm. I thought I remember something about traps not being affected by the - / + damage on griffons … I could be mistaken it’s been a long time since I made a sin.


They changed it a while back. I hopped on my Sin to double-check. Griffs adds a lot more damage than a +1 all skill helm :)
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May 30 2026 05:35am
They changed it a while back. I hopped on my Sin to double-check. Griffs adds a lot more damage than a +1 all skill helm :)


Wow ok. Thanks for that. But I do remember it showing the damage being increased but after the tap is laid it wasn’t affected by the increase. That’s really cool if it is now lol.

/e back in the day that’s why sins wouldn’t care about the griffon stats mainly just the 25fcr +1 fo BP

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May 30 2026 05:51am
Wow ok. Thanks for that. But I do remember it showing the damage being increased but after the tap is laid it wasn’t affected by the increase. That’s really cool if it is now lol.

/e back in the day that’s why sins wouldn’t care about the griffon stats mainly just the 25fcr +1 fo BP


Yes it was fixed
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Yes it was fixed


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May 31 2026 03:25am
Not an assassin, but similar question..:

Summon tainted warlock, essentially fireball warlock, if I equip seraphs hymn, will the 25-50% more dmg to undead and demons carry over to my tainted damage? I think it could be huge but idk if it does…
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Not an assassin, but similar question..:

Summon tainted warlock, essentially fireball warlock, if I equip seraphs hymn, will the 25-50% more dmg to undead and demons carry over to my tainted damage? I think it could be huge but idk if it does…


No, this only increases physical attacks and wouldn't do anything for summons
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