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Apr 17 2026 04:35am
how you would build wealth on it?
My aim is to do mf barb, for trav/pit/terror zones

d2jsp can help early on; I plan to save some fg for ladder start, so it will help gearing; with that in mind, what do you think would be the best way to start?

just skip doing war cry barb and go straight into budget zerker or ww barb and farm hell travi? is budget zerker better than budget ww for that purpose? becasue overall I find ww better for trav, but I know it only from using 2 x grief this ladder :D

I guess budget zerker or ww could look like this:

Oath / ik weapon
Arrerat/ik helm
Rhyme shield/stormshield
random boots/maybe ik
dwarf ring
nagel ring / with ww need ml here
goldwrap/maybe ik
loh gloves
lionhart / skullder / 4 topaz armor / topzed viper / ik armor
swap: x2 alibaba

so... I wonder if this setup can be aquired cheap and fast; do you have any idea about prices - in fg - of mal, pul, oath eth base (I guess eth barlog sword), arrerat, alibaba or ik set in early days of ladder?
rest is easy; if these are too expensive, then I might consider going first for war cry after all with double spirit etc
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Apr 17 2026 05:41am
It works. I've done travi barb only (HC), done normal only, then nightmare, then hell. I mean i don't trade on jsp either. I was lucky quite a few seasons to find bonesnap maul early on, and that helped me tremendously. Also getting pul rune from nm forge, it can be upgraded. I also then traded the next rune and upgraded it to elite. It does shit ton of damage. Talking 2500-4000 or so. That's with mediocre gear as well.

So you would not have to trade much in order to make a viable barb like that. It's perhaps one of the best starting characters. Though for hardcore, you have to learn to play defensively a bit, without super proper gear, you can take big hits, especially from geleb flamefinger - both his normal attacks and his death fire explosion. Lol you wouldn't believe it ... but i remember vividly, one season, some 4-5 years ago, i was on hell, hc, with about 1500 hit points. I took some hits, down to about 1200 .. and his explosion hit me, i had 3 hit points left ^^ Man you get adrenaline going when that happens. Took me 1 second to react. I actually don't remember if i had rejuvs or save and exit.... but i did manage to survive. You feel so vulnerable when you suddenly have so little hit points ^^ Just 1 single hit = KO .. but when you manage to beat that kind of situation - it's the sweetest feeling in the world.

Item find barb doing travi only is a very safe and decent way to start off a ladder. As written, last seasons now, i done the strategy of only doing travincal, first normal, from level 21 (i think) to about 30, then going to nightmare, doing ONLY travi runs... you get decent exp as well you see!! You do hundreds of runs. And you do find some ok gear! You get tons of gems, jewels, which can be traded in packs. Do nm to about, i don't quite remember, 55 or so .. then see what your gear status is like.

You got to play by ear a little bit. And if you're unlucky with gear drops, i do not blame for trading a little bit on jsp. The game is about fun. If it gets un-fun ... trading for a few pieces here and there don't bother me. What DOES bother me is buying it, and botting.
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Apr 17 2026 05:55am
Dunno about mf but for very start of the ladder i dont think you can do budget AND mf.

I usually go 3-5 parts ik (glovea, belt and boots mandatory, rest depending on budget)
Duress is nice and cheap and arreat is nice if you can afford it.
Stormshield and highlords are the most useful items to have and i would focus on those.
As for wpn i usually go with death and socket plain ias jools until i reach bp (25 from ik gloves and highlord help alot) but did with oath also fine and gives you more socket freedom.

Concetrate is not a bad skill to start ladder cus it covers defense and fhr to some degree.

That being said i play hc only and this is from a hc point of view all around good starting barb. If you wanna go glass cannon with mf on sc ofc its possible. Just get to a certain lvl so you dont lose exp and gg.
That setup you posted will kill stuff just will die sometimes if you dont restrict yourself to pit or similar.

I think 200 mf is more than enough for start and you will get that from ik boots/helm/topazes and gheed (and maybe some crap scs)

That all being said, full ik is completly viable and fun also.

Gl and enjoy barbing!
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Apr 17 2026 05:56am
I forgot to mention. I did concentrate, not berserk. I tried berserk lastseason actually. Well the deal is, i did it as a MAIN attack through the acts. It's a very different way to play melee. You cannot rush into a pack, you get mauled real fast. You got to pick out one and one, and that's different. I actually don't remember so much what it was like to do the travi members with it, crazily enough. I think i lost motivation before getting to nm with it. Or just simply went for another strategy.

Concentrate is a damn good skill. Big damage, big defense. Berserk does even more damage, but the zero defense thing is dangerous. Though, against a small pack like the members, it can be superior to concentrate. It's worth thinking about.
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Apr 17 2026 12:14pm
Dunno about mf but for very start of the ladder i dont think you can do budget AND mf.

I usually go 3-5 parts ik (glovea, belt and boots mandatory, rest depending on budget)
Duress is nice and cheap and arreat is nice if you can afford it.
Stormshield and highlords are the most useful items to have and i would focus on those.
As for wpn i usually go with death and socket plain ias jools until i reach bp (25 from ik gloves and highlord help alot) but did with oath also fine and gives you more socket freedom.

Concetrate is not a bad skill to start ladder cus it covers defense and fhr to some degree.

That being said i play hc only and this is from a hc point of view all around good starting barb. If you wanna go glass cannon with mf on sc ofc its possible. Just get to a certain lvl so you dont lose exp and gg.
That setup you posted will kill stuff just will die sometimes if you dont restrict yourself to pit or similar.

I think 200 mf is more than enough for start and you will get that from ik boots/helm/topazes and gheed (and maybe some crap scs)

That all being said, full ik is completly viable and fun also.

Gl and enjoy barbing!


Thanks for these advice, this is helpful! Although Death doesnt look budget :D

Probably going for IK as well, at least 3 parts.

Yeah, 200mf is totally enoough for beginning; I thought 4xtopaz in armor + 25 from rhyme, ik helm also have some, then nagel. I think 200 is quite easy to reach. Or at least 150. The most important thing is just to go over 100.

Do you have any ideas about prices on d2jsp early on the ladder? how much is mal or ist during first week? Any ideas?

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Apr 17 2026 12:22pm
It works. I've done travi barb only (HC), done normal only, then nightmare, then hell. I mean i don't trade on jsp either. I was lucky quite a few seasons to find bonesnap maul early on, and that helped me tremendously. Also getting pul rune from nm forge, it can be upgraded. I also then traded the next rune and upgraded it to elite. It does shit ton of damage. Talking 2500-4000 or so. That's with mediocre gear as well.

So you would not have to trade much in order to make a viable barb like that. It's perhaps one of the best starting characters. Though for hardcore, you have to learn to play defensively a bit, without super proper gear, you can take big hits, especially from geleb flamefinger - both his normal attacks and his death fire explosion. Lol you wouldn't believe it ... but i remember vividly, one season, some 4-5 years ago, i was on hell, hc, with about 1500 hit points. I took some hits, down to about 1200 .. and his explosion hit me, i had 3 hit points left ^^ Man you get adrenaline going when that happens. Took me 1 second to react. I actually don't remember if i had rejuvs or save and exit.... but i did manage to survive. You feel so vulnerable when you suddenly have so little hit points ^^ Just 1 single hit = KO .. but when you manage to beat that kind of situation - it's the sweetest feeling in the world.

Item find barb doing travi only is a very safe and decent way to start off a ladder. As written, last seasons now, i done the strategy of only doing travincal, first normal, from level 21 (i think) to about 30, then going to nightmare, doing ONLY travi runs... you get decent exp as well you see!! You do hundreds of runs. And you do find some ok gear! You get tons of gems, jewels, which can be traded in packs. Do nm to about, i don't quite remember, 55 or so .. then see what your gear status is like.

You got to play by ear a little bit. And if you're unlucky with gear drops, i do not blame for trading a little bit on jsp. The game is about fun. If it gets un-fun ... trading for a few pieces here and there don't bother me. What DOES bother me is buying it, and botting.



Yeah, what is great about Travi is that you always get gems gold and some runes, so that you always progres. That said, I would like to jump to hell as fast as possible. It seems that NM Travi doesnt have interesting drop tables. But maybe someone has good experience with it?
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Apr 17 2026 05:15pm
Yeah, what is great about Travi is that you always get gems gold and some runes, so that you always progres. That said, I would like to jump to hell as fast as possible. It seems that NM Travi doesnt have interesting drop tables. But maybe someone has good experience with it?


No, i cannot lie, it is true, hard to find good items in nm travi. So yes, that is why i often jump the gun and try to move on to hell... and why i died this ladder with the zon, and lost motivation. I was doing okay, was just one of these freak things. Zon was ready for hell. I was doing quest bugged baalruns, barb had already gone to hell mode. I was on my last runs as well, just thinking of going to hell mode with zon. What happened was this:

I was doing bowa. Was running up to baal to fire some arrows. Started firing at range, he summoned tentacles, 3-4 around me. I immediately turn and run south, but take a critical hit (must have been), hit points from 800 to 500 or so. I keep running south (2-3 paces), just about to tp out. He summons MORE tentacles around me, seemed like 4-5 more, one of which landed on top of my tp. I also take more damage, i do pots, but have no rejuvs. I focus on save and exit, slam my hand on esc, but somehow hits alt+q or some combination that minimizes the game ^^ So that was clumsy, but in a stressed situation, and one of those freak things............ 2 seconds later back in the game = KO.

https://i.postimg.cc/RFnfzFrJ/115.png

Either way - yes, nm travi obviously does not yield a lot of good items. I find lots of set items, but the best ones are around sigon's and such. I have probably found some good items, but few and far between. However exp is decent.

So once again, i usually jump the gun a bit, when i feel i have decent gear and level, i try to inch forward to hell mode. You get 2 boss quest drops too (4 if you have two characters, as i always do) so may get lucky there too.
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Apr 18 2026 07:47am
Once you find an eth base for your a2 Merc you can go into hell trav as a singer.

You'll have to bypass the PO physical immune though until you find gavel or dreadfang
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Apr 18 2026 10:07am
Thanks for these advice, this is helpful! Although Death doesnt look budget :D

Probably going for IK as well, at least 3 parts.

Yeah, 200mf is totally enoough for beginning; I thought 4xtopaz in armor + 25 from rhyme, ik helm also have some, then nagel. I think 200 is quite easy to reach. Or at least 150. The most important thing is just to go over 100.

Do you have any ideas about prices on d2jsp early on the ladder? how much is mal or ist during first week? Any ideas?


Dont forget about grandfather also if you can get ias!

25 ik gloves combo, 20 shael in grandfather and then 2x plain ias jools in chest/helm/shield. Also rocks og style.

Mal will drop from hellforge no worries. :)
But on second/third day of the ladder (again hc point of view, sc prolly cheaper) should be around 100 fg max
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Apr 20 2026 04:56am
You need a good merc to get to hell travs with a barb.
What might help is the armor focus. The body armor is what makes the difference. For your barb duress is by far the best cheapest.
For your merc trechery, duress, duriels shell, stone, shaftstop will get through hell.

You got no life leech on that build too unless you get arreat. You might want to consider string of ears belt or a crafting a blood ring.

Also you dont'need to worry about mana if you use an insight merc.

And you will want WW instead of Zerk with that low kind of build so you can escape when things get sticky

And you ideally want something that stops you getting frozen. Gladiators bane, cham, raven frost or something like that. Raven is pretty easy to get.

If you can't get the runes for oath try headstriker, butchers pupil, lawbringer.
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