We should start a march.

Hey, hey.
Ho, ho.
Lady Z has got to go!

but there is no peace deal. i mean, ukraine and europe are NOT talking to Russia. so we are not even in the kitchen, nevermind on a knifes edge.

How do you imagine a conversation with russia would go?

Russian terms for peace are essentially that you become a vassal state like belarus

What was so unacceptably terrible about the status quo ante where Ukraine was recognized as a legitimate democracy by both the US/EU and Russia, where nazis held no political power and it was one unified sovereign country that generally sided with Russia and was linked to them politically and economically?

23 years of peace in the post soviet pre maidan era, 11 years of war and collapse since then. Is the average Ukrainian faring better today? The average ukrainian woman is working in a brothel in germany, the average ukrainian man is dead

https://www.reuters.com/investigations/band-brothers-how-war-crushed-cohort-young-ukrainians-2025-12-01/

Reuters journalists followed a rest case of 11 young Ukrainians who signed up for the AFU together in March this year. Its only been 9 months of following them through the war not even a whole year. Its one of our few objective looks into actual verifiable casualty rates in this war. And the rate they found was... 100%



this couldnt be much worse
28th got hammered at Toretsk but at this point thats more representative of most brigades, with losses across the board. Hell they were being put in because another army was being encircled.

You dodge questions better than orcs dodge bullets, to be fair...

e/ drones, not bullets

This post was edited by dro94 on Dec 2 2025 01:11am

I'm not 100% sure but that just might be because of the Russian invasion and occupation my guy. Just a hunch.

we go around and around over why Russia invaded. in 2025 we have a lot more information then we did in when Russia invaded. the narrative that Russia is imperialistic and wants to invade Europe is heavily eroded. we are expected to believe a country that resolved close to 7000 border disputes with its eastern neighbors had no desire to resolve issues on its western front, even though it was culturally more western aligned. it simply does not add up. We have USAID and US foreign policy all over Ukraine with Georgia acting as a microcosm.



I think Ukraine has had several wasted opportunities - Russia's position has not changed, other then to now concede, or well, last year, to concede that Ukraine can join the EU. That might now be off the table. As the war drags on the terms will get worse and worse - something outlined previously.

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 2 2025 01:46am

Yeah somehow the 2020/21 protests went silent after big bro stepped in. I wonder why? Fear or happiness?

This post was edited by BaHgerAUT on Dec 2 2025 01:52am