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Nov 30 2025 08:29am
Turkey is the party upset with the attacks on tankers in the black sea by Ukraine this week
It gets into the tricky logic of jurisdiction, geopolitical pretense and whatnot

Ukraine openly attacked commercial- non-military- boats flagged by Gambia, operating as part of Russia's sanction evading shadow fleet, while inside Turkey's waters, with a crew of Chinese, Indian, Bangladeshi, Myanmarese and Indonesians. There's an echo of WW1 diplomatic entanglements. Ukraine has effectively attacked Russia, Gambia, Turkiye, China, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar & Indonesia all at the same time. The risk of sea drones for diplomacies sake is that they need to narrowly thread the amount of ordnance necessary to disable a ship, without risking killing the crew or sinking it. Ukraine killing Indian nationals in Turkish waters would be a serious dustup. And just launching an attack in Turkish waters draws Erdogan's ire.
So with the attacks not actually killing anyone or sinking boats, all the other countries including the flag-registration-only Gambia get to avoid having to respond. But Turkey still cares;

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Foreign Ministry spokesman Oncu Keceli said the attacks on the Kairos and Virat vessels happened inside Turkiye’s exclusive economic zone and “have posed serious risks to navigation, life, property and environmental safety in the region.”
In a social media post late Saturday, Keceli added that Turkiye is carrying out talks with “the relevant parties” to prevent the spread of the war in Ukraine across the Black Sea and to protect Turkiye’s economic interests.
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Nov 30 2025 09:28am
Turkey is the party upset with the attacks on tankers in the black sea by Ukraine this week
It gets into the tricky logic of jurisdiction, geopolitical pretense and whatnot

Ukraine openly attacked commercial- non-military- boats flagged by Gambia, operating as part of Russia's sanction evading shadow fleet, while inside Turkey's waters, with a crew of Chinese, Indian, Bangladeshi, Myanmarese and Indonesians. There's an echo of WW1 diplomatic entanglements. Ukraine has effectively attacked Russia, Gambia, Turkiye, China, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar & Indonesia all at the same time. The risk of sea drones for diplomacies sake is that they need to narrowly thread the amount of ordnance necessary to disable a ship, without risking killing the crew or sinking it. Ukraine killing Indian nationals in Turkish waters would be a serious dustup. And just launching an attack in Turkish waters draws Erdogan's ire.
So with the attacks not actually killing anyone or sinking boats, all the other countries including the flag-registration-only Gambia get to avoid having to respond. But Turkey still cares;


Add to that damage to one of the two loading buoys of CPC crude terminal which loads mostly American and European allocations of Kazakh crude (Kazakhstan owns only 20% of Tengiz & 16% of Kashagan).

Chevron and Exxon are not happy Ukranians disrupted their cashflow projections.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/kazakhstan-criticises-ukraine-over-drone-attack-cpc-oil-terminal-2025-11-30/

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Nov 30 2025 09:49am

No more orcs in space for a while. Ironically they depended on Ukrainians to get there in the first place.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/11/28/8009355/
An accident has occurred at the Baikonur Cosmodrome, a spaceport operated by Russia within Kazakhstan, following the launch of the Soyuz MS-28 spacecraft.

Source: Meduza, a Latvia-based Russian media outlet

Details: Immediately after liftoff, the mobile service cabin at Site 31 collapsed and parts of the launch pad were damaged.
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Nov 30 2025 10:20am
No more orcs in space for a while. Ironically they depended on Ukrainians to get there in the first place.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/11/28/8009355/
An accident has occurred at the Baikonur Cosmodrome, a spaceport operated by Russia within Kazakhstan, following the launch of the Soyuz MS-28 spacecraft.

Source: Meduza, a Latvia-based Russian media outlet

Details: Immediately after liftoff, the mobile service cabin at Site 31 collapsed and parts of the launch pad were damaged.


You really need to move on from mindless racist and dehumanising slurs and insults. Nobody is taking you seriously anymore.

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all necessary spare parts are available" and repairs will be conducted shortly
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Nov 30 2025 10:34am
You really need to move on from mindless racist and dehumanising slurs and insults. Nobody is taking you seriously anymore.

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He can't read, this is a privilege of white gentlemen
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Nov 30 2025 11:40am
You really need to move on from mindless racist and dehumanising slurs and insults. Nobody is taking you seriously anymore.

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He can't read, this is a privilege of white gentlemen


Loser added our names to his profile. That's so pathetic.
The only people I know who does these kind of childish shit are girls back in the late 90s where there is friendster and Facebook isn't created yet.

I hate etc etc he is so mean .... boo hoo hoo... on their Friendster or ICQ profile.

Holy crap, this is so amusing. Couldn't cope and have to tell the entire internet world. A behavior that rivals that of an entitled blue eye blonde high school girl that speaks with a valley girl Accent.
Can you imagine someone in their forties with that kinda behavior . And he is a dude. And I think he is a father.

Dear lord.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 30 2025 11:41am
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Nov 30 2025 11:48am
Add to that damage to one of the two loading buoys of CPC crude terminal which loads mostly American and European allocations of Kazakh crude (Kazakhstan owns only 20% of Tengiz & 16% of Kashagan).

Chevron and Exxon are not happy Ukranians disrupted their cashflow projections.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/kazakhstan-criticises-ukraine-over-drone-attack-cpc-oil-terminal-2025-11-30/


Yeah the Kazakhs aren't as meaningful a critic as Turkey, but there's a real hypothetical scenario in the next month where the peace deal implodes, the Ukrainian government internally collapses and Russia's allies join the war on the basis of stopping a rudderless Ukraine's 'foreign terrorism' as casus belli. Farfetched, but not too farfetched. Its been this calculation for years now that Russia is slowly winning the war of attrition, that Ukraine is most likely to implode under internal stresses before Russia could blitz the lines and occupy them (especially considering Russia really doesn't want such a liability even if it won the rest bloodlessly), and Ukrainian nationalist's only way out other than surrender is to try to overturn the board and shake things up with such dramatic escalations it pulls in the rest of the world. Hitting Russian nuclear bombers with drones hidden in commercial shipping, attacking oil terminals serving the west.

And as far as internal pressures? Demyan Hanul and Andriy Parubiy have both been assassinated already, but Zaluzhnyi is alive and outside the Zelensky regime and put out a statement today; "Peace, even in anticipation of the next war, provides a chance for political change, for deep reforms, for full recovery, economic growth, and the return of citizens," in an op-ed to The Telegraph. Wonder how many people they publish go out and sit down with neo nazis for political power
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Nov 30 2025 11:51am
Loser added our names to his profile. That's so pathetic.
The only people I know who does these kind of childish shit are girls back in the late 90s where there is friendster and Facebook isn't created yet.

I hate etc etc he is so mean .... boo hoo hoo... on their Friendster or ICQ profile.

Holy crap, this is so amusing. Couldn't cope and have to tell the entire internet world. A behavior that rivals that of an entitled blue eye blonde high school girl that speaks with a valley girl Accent.
Can you imagine someone in their forties with that kinda behavior . And he is a dude. And I think he is a father.

Dear lord.


He can barely be called a man; he fled his country in endless fear for his worthless life, justifying his cowardice by saying he forgot to use protection like twice. He will flee from Canada too, with the same excuse, but next time it will be because of already mustachioed children, mark my words. And it's this pathetic creature who advocates for Ukrainians to die en masse, so that a former tea-picker can live on welfare in Canada.

This post was edited by Norlander on Nov 30 2025 11:53am
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Nov 30 2025 11:52am
He can barely be called a man; he fled his country in endless fear for his worthless life, justifying his cowardice by saying he forgot to use protection twice. He will flee from Canada too, with the same excuse, but next time it will be because of already mustachioed children, mark my words. And it's this pathetic creature who advocates for Ukrainians to die en masse, so that a former tea-picker can live on welfare in Canada.


The Sinhalese are to be blamed not him. They didn't do their job.
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Nov 30 2025 12:00pm
You really need to move on from mindless racist and dehumanising slurs and insults. Nobody is taking you seriously anymore.

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Whole PARD is full of racism. From dehumanizing russians, to white pride boys. Mods don't give a shit. Only if you mention genitals you get a timeout.
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