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Apr 7 2025 08:53am
Finally a green day! Short term bottom or dead cat bounce? Still feel a fair amount of uncertainty, could just be a technical bounce from oversold.


Uncertainty will nail the Market for a while. It will bounce back when more countries do what Finland is trying to do and “Talk about it”.

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Apr 7 2025 08:58am
The worst thing anyone can do right now is freak out.

If you're getting your US news from a left wing source, it's telling you to freak out.
If you're getting your US news from a right wing source, it's telling you everything is fine.

In reality it's somewhere in the middle still.

I was expecting a black Monday scenario.
That apparently didn't happen, markets been high in the last several years.
Still in a safe zone.

Sorry if you invested recently but that's the gamble.
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Apr 7 2025 09:00am
The worst thing anyone can do right now is freak out.

If you're getting your US news from a left wing source, it's telling you to freak out.
If you're getting your US news from a right wing source, it's telling you everything is fine.

In reality it's somewhere in the middle still.

I was expecting a black Monday scenario.
That apparently didn't happen, markets been high in the last several years.
Still in a safe zone.

Sorry if you invested recently but that's the gamble.


Invested recently? That's not how it works.

I've lost an entire year's gain in my 401k. This doesn't just bounce back as fast as it is lost.

I also trade daily. The hurt will take YEARS to recover.
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Apr 7 2025 09:04am
Invested recently? That's not how it works.

I've lost an entire year's gain in my 401k. This doesn't just bounce back as fast as it is lost.

I also trade daily. The hurt will take YEARS to recover.


Short term moves in your 401k are irrelevant if you have a time horizon of 20-30 years.

It also lets you buy assets at 15-20% discount, which over the long term is actually a positive.
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Apr 7 2025 09:17am
What a gong show of a day for day-traders.
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Apr 7 2025 09:18am
EU offers Trump removal of all industrial tariffs
BRUSSELS — The EU has offered the United States a “zero-for-zero” tariff scheme, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Monday, seeking to avoid a tit-for-tat trade war.

“We have offered zero-for-zero tariffs for industrial goods as we have successfully done with many other trading partners. Because Europe is always ready for a good deal. So we keep it on the table,” she told a press conference alongside Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-offers-trump-removal-of-all-tariffs/

What a gong show of a day for day-traders.


Markets trade like memecoins today


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Apr 7 2025 09:20am
EU offers Trump removal of all industrial tariffs
BRUSSELS — The EU has offered the United States a “zero-for-zero” tariff scheme, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Monday, seeking to avoid a tit-for-tat trade war.

“We have offered zero-for-zero tariffs for industrial goods as we have successfully done with many other trading partners. Because Europe is always ready for a good deal. So we keep it on the table,” she told a press conference alongside Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-offers-trump-removal-of-all-tariffs/


Well that's the same thing the EU offered 6 years ago and Trump shit on it? My mind cant keep track of all of it to be honest.

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Apr 7 2025 09:22am
Trump just hit China with additional 50% tariffs.

This is gonna be a back and forth game
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Apr 7 2025 09:25am
Trump just hit China with additional 50% tariffs.

This is gonna be a back and forth game


It will force China to devalue the Yuan. If they do it hurts their food and energy imports. It also hurts the de-dollarization trend. If you are settling with China in Yuan, you're about to take a huge haircut and basically tell them we need settlement in USD/Euro/Yen etc.
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Apr 7 2025 09:34am
It will force China to devalue the Yuan. If they do it hurts their food and energy imports. It also hurts the de-dollarization trend. If you are settling with China in Yuan, you're about to take a huge haircut and basically tell them we need settlement in USD/Euro/Yen etc.


China already cheats with it's currency to manipulate it's price.
They also do stuff like give huge loans to poor countries,. knowing those countries can never pay it back.

I'm real curious how china is going to keep at this game...
USA and Europe can handle the turbulence.

China on the other hand has had major economic woes in the past several years.
including a real estate pop.

Keep in mind, china is not all big cities with future tech.
Most of china is country side farmers who are too poor to own the latest cell phone.
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