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Jan 7 2025 02:37pm
I fail to see how this is an issue. People that have time and resources to get angry about this have too much time and resources. Arent companies free to do whatever they want with their websites?
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Jan 7 2025 02:39pm
i have yet to hear how community notes are bad.

when Elon gets community noted on his own website the left cheers, when facebook follows suit its big tech collusion. how exactly its this more collusion than big tech literally moderating in line with FBI directives? absurd.


community notes are not bad in themselves but this issue, at its core, is a move to appease Trump. to act otherwise is absurd
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Jan 7 2025 02:42pm
Step 1 - Flood your own userbase with AI accounts / bot accounts.
Step 2 - Remove fact checkers
Step 3- Program your AI to become the fact checkers via "community notes"
Step 4 - profit ???

This post was edited by SBD on Jan 7 2025 02:47pm
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Jan 7 2025 02:45pm
Step 1 - Flood your own userbase with AI accounts / bot accounts.
Step 2 - Remove fact checkers
Step 3- All / program your AI to become the fact checkers via "community notes"
Step 4 - profit ???


relevant video
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Jan 7 2025 02:48pm
community notes are not bad in themselves but this issue, at its core, is a move to appease Trump. to act otherwise is absurd


bad take. social media companies have been under threat of regulation for a few regimes now because they're overstepping their legal bounds when they remove content and may face harsh regulation.

they can get away with it when it comes simply to removing content like gore, porn, etc that violates simple guidelines. but when you start removing posts and accounts based on what an employee deems is the truth while information is still emerging then you have an issue that can be litigated and/or legislated. they want to avoid that at all costs.

the only "appease trump" angle i see makes the dem argument worse, because Harris would have liked to leverage the DA to change even more of their policy internally. the hunter biden laptop situation was a debacle, anyone who wants more of those situations is deranged and shortsighted.
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Jan 7 2025 03:08pm
bad take. social media companies have been under threat of regulation for a few regimes now because they're overstepping their legal bounds when they remove content and may face harsh regulation.

they can get away with it when it comes simply to removing content like gore, porn, etc that violates simple guidelines. but when you start removing posts and accounts based on what an employee deems is the truth while information is still emerging then you have an issue that can be litigated and/or legislated. they want to avoid that at all costs.

the only "appease trump" angle i see makes the dem argument worse, because Harris would have liked to leverage the DA to change even more of their policy internally. the hunter biden laptop situation was a debacle, anyone who wants more of those situations is deranged and shortsighted.


I don't think it's regulation that motivates them at this time. Social media companies are reacting to the threat of the pocket book, especially now with more options instead of the Facebook monopoly which ran for about 15 years. People don't want to pay for the premium features or invest time creating the social media when it's subject to shadow ban, redaction, deletion, etc. As a long time YT premium user, I canceled (was also nearly triple the cost of when I first subscribed). Also, seen more and more YT complain ok their own way of the censorship. Censorship on academic content...meanwhile Zulu dancers exposed.

As for regulation, Id just like sites who position themselves as hosting public comments to live up to it. Keep the comments public unless threats or doxxing. Else fine the domain owners. For those who complain about sites should not be regulated. They already are, so pound sound. ADA, prono rules, etc.
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Jan 7 2025 03:11pm
I don't think it's regulation that motivates them at this time. Social media companies are reacting to the threat of the pocket book, especially now with more options instead of the Facebook monopoly which ran for about 15 years. People don't want to pay for the premium features or invest time creating the social media when it's subject to shadow ban, redaction, deletion, etc. As a long time YT premium user, I canceled (was also nearly triple the cost of when I first subscribed). Also, seen more and more YT complain ok their own way of the censorship. Censorship on academic content...meanwhile Zulu dancers exposed.

As for regulation, Id just like sites who position themselves as hosting public comments to live up to it. Keep the comments public unless threats or doxxing. Else fine the domain owners. For those who complain about sites should not be regulated. They already are, so pound sound. ADA, prono rules, etc.


Yes i'd agree there. if i had to order it i'd say:

1. loss of profit
2. threat of regulation
3. trying to align with trump

and 3 a long ways off compared to gap between 1 and 2.

as a result of censorship we're seeing new socials pop up like bluesky where the whole appeal is uber censorship, same with sites like truth. and the old guard is signaling they want to open up. also slims down staffing so more profit.
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Jan 7 2025 03:23pm
bad take. social media companies have been under threat of regulation for a few regimes now because they're overstepping their legal bounds when they remove content and may face harsh regulation.

they can get away with it when it comes simply to removing content like gore, porn, etc that violates simple guidelines. but when you start removing posts and accounts based on what an employee deems is the truth while information is still emerging then you have an issue that can be litigated and/or legislated. they want to avoid that at all costs.



this is flat out bullshit and you know it, any social media company has a ToS and its their responsibility to enforce it - fact checking included

moving away from fact-checking to community notes is exactly what Trump wants

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/7/24338125/meta-mark-zuckerberg-fact-checking-censorship-brendan-carr-trump
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Jan 7 2025 03:42pm
I honestly don't know how anyone can be against the community notes model. I'm regularly on Twitter and they rarely miss. This should be the standard for all news reporting. Hopefully 10 years from now we literally have a community notes-esque plugin for all cable news. Doesn't matter which side you're on, this is a good for all.
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Jan 7 2025 03:45pm
I honestly don't know how anyone can be against the community notes model. I'm regularly on Twitter and they rarely miss. This should be the standard for all news reporting. Hopefully 10 years from now we literally have a community notes-esque plugin for all cable news. Doesn't matter which side you're on, this is a good for all.


Hold on, they have to fact check that using wikipedia, oh wait. :lol:

This post was edited by Mondain on Jan 7 2025 03:45pm
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