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Jan 6 2025 07:57pm
How based would it be if Trump actually accomplishes this? I find it unlikely but the discussion could be around 1. Development of natural resources 2. Military bases particularly as polar ice caps melt and the arctic becomes a viable route for transportation. Both China and Russia have been very eager to unlock natural resource up there. This could be more of a geopolitical play.

But anyways, if Trump actually manages to purchase Greenland he actually will go down in history as one of the better presidents IMO.

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Trump Jr. Plans Surprise Greenland Visit After Talk of US Purchase

Trip comes weeks after Trump hints at buying Greenland
Greenland’s premier cancels meeting with Denmark’s king


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-06/trump-jr-plans-surprise-greenland-visit-amid-independence-push

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 6 2025 07:58pm
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Jan 6 2025 08:37pm
Trumps 'retribution is going to be success'.

Big If True B)

edit: ps. greenland has been of interest to the USA since the 1800s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_the_United_States_to_purchase_Greenland

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Trumps 'retribution is going to be success'.

Big If True B)

edit: ps. greenland has been of interest to the USA since the 1800s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_the_United_States_to_purchase_Greenland


Go invade denmark and scam em?
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Jan 7 2025 05:38am
How based would it be if Trump actually accomplishes this? I find it unlikely but the discussion could be around 1. Development of natural resources 2. Military bases particularly as polar ice caps melt and the arctic becomes a viable route for transportation. Both China and Russia have been very eager to unlock natural resource up there. This could be more of a geopolitical play.

But anyways, if Trump actually manages to purchase Greenland he actually will go down in history as one of the better presidents IMO.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-06/trump-jr-plans-surprise-greenland-visit-amid-independence-push


The idea of the U.S. purchasing Greenland or acquiring it through any form of direct expansion is, in all likelihood, highly improbable. It’s an idea that feels as far-fetched as suggesting the U.S. might invade France and make it a new state. While hypothetically, anything is possible with the right amount of military force or political maneuvering, such an approach is far from the typical diplomatic or geopolitical strategy the U.S. pursues today (but I accept Donald Trump is a maverick).

Instead, a more plausible scenario would involve the U.S. gradually increasing its influence in Greenland through a blend of political, economic, and military means—similar to how the U.S. has extended its influence over various regions of Europe and Eastern Europe over the decades. The U.S. has a long history of deepening its alliances and partnerships, often without resorting to direct colonization or territorial expansion. In Greenland’s case, the U.S. could increase its involvement in the region’s burgeoning geopolitical landscape by positioning itself as a key player in the Arctic. This could manifest in leveraging Greenland’s strategic location, particularly as the Arctic becomes an increasingly contested area with the melting of ice caps, opening new trade routes, and unlocking valuable natural resources. Both Russia and China are already interested in this region, with a growing focus on the extraction of those resources.

However, influencing Greenland’s political landscape would not be a simple task. While Greenland is an autonomous territory with its own government, Denmark still holds authority over its defense, foreign affairs, and monetary policies. Therefore, the U.S. would not only need to engage with Greenland's leadership but would also have to consider Denmark's role in the equation. This makes any potential U.S. intervention or influence in Greenland’s political landscape tricky, as Denmark itself has its own interests to protect, especially in the context of its strategic relationship with the U.S. and the broader Western bloc.

That said, the geopolitical landscape is far from static, and history has shown that strategic interests can be shaped through more subtle methods. Looking at how events unfolded around the Nord Stream pipeline, one can see how power dynamics can shift in unexpected ways. Despite Denmark's clear interests in maintaining its sovereignty over Greenland, the U.S. has demonstrated in recent years that it is not beyond pushing its influence in sensitive geopolitical scenarios, even when it involves the complexities of another nation's sovereignty. The aftermath of Nord Stream highlighted the lengths to which global powers are willing to go in securing their interests in contested areas, especially when vital resources or strategic locations are at stake. This shows that while infiltrating Greenland’s political landscape would face initial resistance, it might not be as complex as it appears on paper, especially in a world where shifting alliances and strategic plays are becoming increasingly common.

In a scenario where the U.S. sought to increase its influence in Greenland, it would likely use a multi-pronged approach, including strengthening economic ties, investing in infrastructure, and expanding its military presence through strategic bases and collaborations. Rather than a dramatic territorial conquest, this would be a more measured and strategic form of influence, designed to ensure U.S. dominance in the Arctic. The U.S. could also work closely with Denmark, reinforcing shared defense and economic interests, potentially offering incentives in exchange for greater access to Greenland’s resources or strategic position.

Over the next few decades, it’s likely that Greenland’s importance will only continue to grow as the Arctic region becomes a focal point for global powers. While Denmark would continue to assert its sovereignty, the U.S. could play a pivotal role in shaping Greenland's future, whether through bilateral agreements, economic partnerships, or military collaboration. This form of soft power and diplomatic engagement would likely be the U.S.'s preferred approach, offering the benefits of influence without the need for outright annexation or conquest.

In conclusion, the future of U.S.-Greenland relations is unlikely to follow a traditional path of territorial acquisition. Instead, we are more likely to see a gradual, long-term process of influence, involving strategic partnerships and a greater U.S. presence in the Arctic region. While it may be tricky to infiltrate Greenland’s political landscape, the geopolitical dynamics suggest that this could be a far more achievable outcome than outright colonization or annexation. If history and recent events, such as the Nord Stream incident, have shown anything, it’s that in today’s interconnected world, strategic influence can often be achieved in ways that may not appear immediately obvious.

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Jan 7 2025 05:39am
Greenland and Siberia look like great pieces of real estate for the next couple centuries
But lets be real if greenland became the 51st state you'd have a wave of white americans flooding to the only state with no black people :S
wait no vermont still exists
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Jan 7 2025 06:09am
Greenland colonized the US first though. The US should become a part of Greenland :lol:
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Erik-the-Red

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Jan 7 2025 09:30am
Greenland and Siberia look like great pieces of real estate for the next couple centuries
But lets be real if greenland became the 51st state you'd have a wave of white americans flooding to the only state with no black people :S
wait no vermont still exists


~10% of all global fresh water is there
~tons of rare earths, metals, probably oil and gas that's undiscovered
~Real prize IMO is piece of the arctic pie though and geopolitical counter for Russia/China

Rare earth mining and refinement is pretty nasty. If we truly decouple from China and have to source and refine ourselves, do we want to do it in our own backyard or some desolate frozen rock that has 60k living people on it.
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Jan 7 2025 09:37am
and we could just stick those 60k on a reservation somewhere, or maybe send them into the mines

I say we buy it

This post was edited by girly on Jan 7 2025 09:37am
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and we could just stick those 60k on a reservation somewhere, or maybe send them into the mines

I say we buy it


Humans derive a lot of value from working. We don't need to send them anywhere most would gladly welcome the economic investments and the opportunity that comes with it. Simply giving people handouts has rarely worked out, our Indian population is a prime example of that.
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Jan 7 2025 11:10am
Greenland can join the protection of the USA, increasing it's value on the world stage ten fold.

Or remain under Denmark and get picked apart slowly by Russia & China.

50% of the world trades are based on USD,
If Greenland got that kind of backing,
it would prosper like it's never imagined.
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