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May 15 2015 04:00pm
Quote (-=vasya=- @ May 15 2015 03:20pm)
did anyone ever said anything about aliens ? and pyramids getting destroyed in china is a fact.... and since when growing trees cost mass amounts of money ? go google it clown


what? You and kalelvszod were talking about aliens on page 2.

And I'm not saying it didn't get destroyed, I'm saying the idea that they destroyed it to cover up some sort of secret of our ancient past is nonsensical. What possible incentive would a government have for that?

And moving large sections of earth and planting trees is not cheap.

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what? You and kalelvszod were talking about aliens on page 2.

And I'm not saying it didn't get destroyed, I'm saying the idea that they destroyed it to cover up some sort of secret of our ancient past is nonsensical. What possible incentive would a government have for that?

And moving large sections of earth and planting trees is not cheap.



so they just doing it for fun ? lol maybe instead of getting frustrated and flaming you can tell us your theory?

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May 15 2015 05:48pm
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if there's nothing known about it how did you know about it


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look into graham hancocks work, also neil degrass tyson and randall carlson.

interesting stuff pertaining to this content.

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May 15 2015 10:17pm
I doubt the Chinese government knows anything but when in doubt destroy first, ask questions later.
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May 16 2015 02:33pm
Damn, that sucks. history is being destroyed. i've heard egypt tomb been raided all time
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Sorry if i was a bit short the other posts i wasnt having the best day. Ill break it down to hopefully clear up any misunderstandings about the pyramid's construction.

Basically the predominant idea is that teams of men drive blocks in spirals up the pyramids, despite a few keystones in the base of the structures teams of men of 20-30 could move most of the "building blocks" of the structures. This process can be reproduced today without the help of any modern machinery.

The second basic misunderstanding can be attributed to people's ideas of the workforce. Of course the bible falsely tells us the Egyptians used slaves, Jewish slaves. This is false, the workforce of ancient Egyptians was built up of off season farmers. The nile river delta and area surrounding the nile flood once a year, which displaces all of the farmers who use the sediment layed by those floods to farm, even today. This would have been by many estimates hundreds of thousands of people looking for work while they are displaced from their farming plots. The same concept works for the Maya, however it was not displaced farmers but rather a highly advanced system of job specialization due to extremely advance farming techniques compared to their peers around the world. Either way the number of stone masons, hard laborers, and qualified mathematicians seem to all be accounted for. Many people believe, but cannot confirm, that the people of Cahokia complete pilgrimages to bury relatives and participated in the raising of the earth pyramids over many millenia, again the workforce and timescale are accounted for.

Interestingly enough the last estimate i saw for the construction of the great pyramids put the time between laying individual blocks at around 3 minutes apart. A steep task, but this was also at the absolute height of Egyptian engineering and finances.

As to the similarities, as far as purpose, size, shape, angle, and composition the pyramids in egypt and the pyramids in central america have very little in common. From a few miles away they may look similar, or even related. However when you look at the stone composition, angle of ascent, and purpose they are incredibly different. Egyptian pyramids are tombs, wheras the maya did sometimes bury leaders in their pyramids but they were more commonly used as centers of metropolitan areas and housed religious leaders. Maya pyramids also used walkways and smaller cut stones, something missing from Egyptian pyramids. Additionally the angle of ascent is entirely more steep in Maya pyramids which causes a myriad of architectural differences.



The geomerty was indeed a triumph however the pyramids werent "built to last", not because they intended them to fall apart, but rather the natural environment of Egypt makes the erosion factors too high to build anything out of stone that will last. Additionally you can track the changed in geometry over time and see that quite a few structures were mathematical failures and needed later alteration. The angle of incline was often miscalculated.


id still like to now how they were able to transport them to the pyramid site tho. if i remember correctly it was quite a distance
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May 19 2015 08:56am
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id still like to now how they were able to transport them to the pyramid site tho. if i remember correctly it was quite a distance


the teams of men that transported them up spirals into place for the pyramid hauled them on flat ground. If men could haul them up inclines they could easily haul them on flat ground. It is indeed a long way from some pyramids but this process was done over decades and decades.
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the teams of men that transported them up spirals into place for the pyramid hauled them on flat ground. If men could haul them up inclines they could easily haul them on flat ground. It is indeed a long way from some pyramids but this process was done over decades and decades.


Yep. But except the terrain isnt flat from where the had to of transported them from and wasnt any trees to develop rollers and there would be evidence of a pully system of sort if they used one .Something like great pyramids etc would need to be planned out and yet there is no proof of schematics. If some great pharoah was around at time dont think his name would be all over it. To me like they just dropped out of the sky. Same with mayans. There culture may have been even more advanced yet no evidence of who or how they were built.
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May 19 2015 10:34am
Lets take this a step at a time. Preface, i think you REALLY need to read some anthropological literature on pyramids because most of what you're saying is wrong.

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Yep. But except the terrain isnt flat from where the had to of transported them from


This is just largely false, the terrain from quarry to pyramid site was indeed flat as it is still today flat. That is the reason that quarry sites in egypt are much farther away from the pyramid sites than say in Maya culture where the terrain is far from flat. Mayans would have had alot more trouble transporting big blocks than the eqyptians, which is one reason their stones are smaller on average.

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wasnt any trees to develop rollers and there would be evidence of a pully system of sort if they used one


Not only were their trees within the Egyptian territory but the Egyptians at the time were well established in trading of the day and well above the curve of agricultural prowess. Making logs the least of their concerns.

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Something like great pyramids etc would need to be planned out and yet there is no proof of schematics.


here you're aplying your ideas of western architecture incorrectly, stone masons back then could make near perfect blocks of stone without advanced tools or writing, the architects of the day were very similar. If you follow the evolution of the Eqyptian pyramids with Giza as the apex you can see that different ages of pyramids evolved in design and corrected former pyramids mistakes. These corrections begin at ground level. So there was likely a guild of builders in charge of many generations of pharoah's pyramids. teaching the next generation the ins and outs. If there were schematics however they would not have been saved. The pyramids were means as final resting places and any schematic would make plundering that pyramid easy.

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If some great pharoah was around at time dont think his name would be all over it.


umm what? both the egyptian and mayan pyramids ARE covered in the names of the rulers who built them, to suggest otherwise is just misinformed.

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There culture may have been even more advanced yet no evidence of who or how they were built.


This is again nothing but an extension of the kids shows you watched on egypt where they convinced you that the construction of the pyramids is some great mystery yet to be solved. That is of course false, the process has been explained and replicated for a long time. Study up on it and youll find there is little that is unexplained by modern anthropologists.
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