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May 14 2015 07:34pm
Quote (bentherdonethat @ May 14 2015 07:12am)
Do you honestly think that only a handful of people in Egypt thought "Hey, let's build a big pile of rocks as a tomb". You really prefer the conspiracy theory angle than the idea that two people in different places could think of the same thing?


Quote (kalelvszod @ May 14 2015 08:46am)
Many different civilizations made them. When many have same idea then is it coincidence? I dont believe so. Still havent been able to figure out how they constructed them, along with many other mega structures.how did people move rocks that we would need machines for td? How were things carved with such precision? Alot of structures are made of diorite rock which is extremely hard yet it looks like they carved into it no problem aswell as make interlocking holes etc.


^ thats the answer.
I would also add, in todays age, it's fine ppl copy each other. But during that era, ppl "somewhat" duplicating one another, while the population of Earth was nothing compared to now, communication being hard, and the distances between one another... ya... I do believe it's not a total coincidence.

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your statement is filled with anthropological falsehoods. There are very few pyramid building cultures that we cant exclusively identify, the main being certain strains of Maya and Olmec. Your opinion that the egyptian and mayan or any other culture share building methods or design simply isnt true. They are vastly different.

What i was trying to say is that humans in different cultures built pyramids because it was the only possible way to attain great height artificially in the ancient world. Note that not all ancient cultures built pyramids, simply those wishing for monolithic buildings, because a pyramid is the only shape feasible for ancient cultures. The link between these cultures is not pyramids but rather the desire to attain great heights, which is only possible through pyramids.

I must also add that many people falsely believe we dont know how the ancient pyramid were built or that the technology wasnt available at the time. Both of which are implicitly false, we know and have proven with recreation the methods that ancients used to build their structure.


I get the opinion about wanting to reach heights.
Although I still believe most pyramids or pyramid like structures built around the world have some similarities.

The only proven method of building a ancient structure that I've learned about is, Stonehenge, and other similar structures.
Pyramids, I've seen many methods, but none to explain the speed of which ppl estimated, it took to build.
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May 14 2015 08:18pm
The base size of the great pyramid and mayan pyramid are same if i remenber correctly. Now which is wierd to me is no inscriptions in the great pyramid but the others do. Why is that? There is much much more. The 3 great pyramids and mayans are most interesting to me. the math involved is so precise yet ones constructed later are uneven and falling apart,almost seems like the egyptians were trying to duplicate something they never built in first place.
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May 14 2015 08:45pm
Quote (kalelvszod @ May 14 2015 07:18pm)
The base size of the great pyramid and mayan pyramid are same if i remenber correctly. Now which is wierd to me is no inscriptions in the great pyramid but the others do. Why is that? There is much much more. The 3 great pyramids and mayans are most interesting to me. the math involved is so precise yet ones constructed later are uneven and falling apart,almost seems like the egyptians were trying to duplicate something they never built in first place.


Or they couldn't keep up with need and had to cut corners.
I read something about the cats they buried. It said so many cats were killed and mummified that they started running out of cats so they ended up burying 30% cats and the rest were fake mummies filled with leaves and garbage.of course doing that would cost you your life so no one talked about it even back then.
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May 15 2015 01:19am
Quote (Scaly @ May 15 2015 12:39am)
Oh my fucking god...

Every time i come into this subforum I just get frustrated at how ridiculous you all are.


Then don't come here...go hate on religion and post more tranny pictures...sheep

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May 15 2015 02:17am
Quote (kalelvszod @ May 14 2015 08:46am)
Many different civilizations made them. When many have same idea then is it coincidence? I dont believe so. Still havent been able to figure out how they constructed them, along with many other mega structures.how did people move rocks that we would need machines for td? How were things carved with such precision? Alot of structures are made of diorite rock which is extremely hard yet it looks like they carved into it no problem aswell as make interlocking holes etc.


Personally, I believe people were smarter back then. They had to be very precise and inventions and innovations were popping up everywhere. Also, there's a theory stating that the Egyptians used just the right amount of water to allow the blocks to be pulled on the sand. The water theory has been replicated in a much smaller size.
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May 15 2015 08:24am
Quote (dpalu855 @ May 14 2015 10:45pm)
Or they couldn't keep up with need and had to cut corners.
I read something about the cats they buried. It said so many cats were killed and mummified that they started running out of cats so they ended up burying 30% cats and the rest were fake mummies filled with leaves and garbage.of course doing that would cost you your life so no one talked about it even back then.


Interesting didnt kno that

Quote (Konvicted08 @ May 15 2015 04:17am)
Personally, I believe people were smarter back then. They had to be very precise and inventions and innovations were popping up everywhere. Also, there's a theory stating that the Egyptians used just the right amount of water to allow the blocks to be pulled on the sand. The water theory has been replicated in a much smaller size.


Perhaps but what happened then? Theres quite a few chapters in history we lost knowledge of. Maybe dark ages responsible who knows. 800 years of cover ups and nething that went against churches was destroyed and along with people. But still all of this took place thousands of years before hand. We went from people barely out of the cave to a civilization constructing mass cities/structures. I do not think people had knowledge to do so. Mayans had irrigation and i think a form of hydrolics. Must of been some outside influence imo.
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May 15 2015 09:45am
there this 4-5 hour long Russian documentary about pyramids and other structures, there’s no wild alien theories or anything like that... they approached it with pure logic and facts. They don’t tell you how pyramids were build but live it to figure out for yourself. From what i have gathered it looks like Egyptians, Mayans etc... never build their pyramids but found them, occupied them and started worshiping people who build them. Probably trying to replicate mummification process etc... they even tried to build pyramids them self’s but failed. Pyramids have been found where half of the wall was made out of sharp big blocks (like in great pyramid) and other half out of sloppy clay bricks. Also if Mayans had this knowledge and technology to build pyramids how come they all lived in houses made out of bamboo...?



anyway...its just my theory
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May 15 2015 11:24am
Quote (James84 @ May 14 2015 07:34pm)
^ thats the answer.
I would also add, in todays age, it's fine ppl copy each other. But during that era, ppl "somewhat" duplicating one another, while the population of Earth was nothing compared to now, communication being hard, and the distances between one another... ya... I do believe it's not a total coincidence.



I get the opinion about wanting to reach heights.
Although I still believe most pyramids or pyramid like structures built around the world have some similarities.

The only proven method of building a ancient structure that I've learned about is, Stonehenge, and other similar structures.
Pyramids, I've seen many methods, but none to explain the speed of which ppl estimated, it took to build.


Sorry if i was a bit short the other posts i wasnt having the best day. Ill break it down to hopefully clear up any misunderstandings about the pyramid's construction.

Basically the predominant idea is that teams of men drive blocks in spirals up the pyramids, despite a few keystones in the base of the structures teams of men of 20-30 could move most of the "building blocks" of the structures. This process can be reproduced today without the help of any modern machinery.

The second basic misunderstanding can be attributed to people's ideas of the workforce. Of course the bible falsely tells us the Egyptians used slaves, Jewish slaves. This is false, the workforce of ancient Egyptians was built up of off season farmers. The nile river delta and area surrounding the nile flood once a year, which displaces all of the farmers who use the sediment layed by those floods to farm, even today. This would have been by many estimates hundreds of thousands of people looking for work while they are displaced from their farming plots. The same concept works for the Maya, however it was not displaced farmers but rather a highly advanced system of job specialization due to extremely advance farming techniques compared to their peers around the world. Either way the number of stone masons, hard laborers, and qualified mathematicians seem to all be accounted for. Many people believe, but cannot confirm, that the people of Cahokia complete pilgrimages to bury relatives and participated in the raising of the earth pyramids over many millenia, again the workforce and timescale are accounted for.

Interestingly enough the last estimate i saw for the construction of the great pyramids put the time between laying individual blocks at around 3 minutes apart. A steep task, but this was also at the absolute height of Egyptian engineering and finances.

As to the similarities, as far as purpose, size, shape, angle, and composition the pyramids in egypt and the pyramids in central america have very little in common. From a few miles away they may look similar, or even related. However when you look at the stone composition, angle of ascent, and purpose they are incredibly different. Egyptian pyramids are tombs, wheras the maya did sometimes bury leaders in their pyramids but they were more commonly used as centers of metropolitan areas and housed religious leaders. Maya pyramids also used walkways and smaller cut stones, something missing from Egyptian pyramids. Additionally the angle of ascent is entirely more steep in Maya pyramids which causes a myriad of architectural differences.

Quote (kalelvszod @ May 14 2015 08:18pm)
The base size of the great pyramid and mayan pyramid are same if i remenber correctly. Now which is wierd to me is no inscriptions in the great pyramid but the others do. Why is that? There is much much more. The 3 great pyramids and mayans are most interesting to me. the math involved is so precise yet ones constructed later are uneven and falling apart,almost seems like the egyptians were trying to duplicate something they never built in first place.


The geomerty was indeed a triumph however the pyramids werent "built to last", not because they intended them to fall apart, but rather the natural environment of Egypt makes the erosion factors too high to build anything out of stone that will last. Additionally you can track the changed in geometry over time and see that quite a few structures were mathematical failures and needed later alteration. The angle of incline was often miscalculated.
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May 15 2015 02:06pm
Do you guys seriously think that governments around the world are conspiring and investing large amounts of money to destroy information about our ancient history so that we don't have to rewrite history? LOL


Not to mention the idea of ancient aliens has so many racist undertones... Think about all the complex architecture the Romans and Greeks built, cultures that coexisted with the height of ancient Egyptian culture.
Pyramids too complex for brown people, must be aliens. But domes and long distance aqueducts aren't too complicated for white people to figure out :bonk:


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May 15 2015 03:20pm
Quote (MrDestroyer @ May 15 2015 08:06pm)
Do you guys seriously think that governments around the world are conspiring and investing large amounts of money to destroy information about our ancient history so that we don't have to rewrite history? LOL


Not to mention the idea of ancient aliens has so many racist undertones... Think about all the complex architecture the Romans and Greeks built, cultures that coexisted with the height of ancient Egyptian culture.
Pyramids too complex for brown people, must be aliens. But domes and long distance aqueducts aren't too complicated for white people to figure out :bonk:


did anyone ever said anything about aliens ? and pyramids getting destroyed in china is a fact.... and since when growing trees cost mass amounts of money ? go google it clown

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