Ive been running lamas guide on icy-veins, im not 100% happy with it because it doesn't have bind demon and hex. I Have also seen the build on maxroll. Very curios if you guys are using a different build then these and can you please share .
Also this build is for mainly farming sunders .

His builds are usually very bad impressions of what the optimized builds are
what you want is here;
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=109307912&f=148

An example setup with optimized gear would look like:
Prebuff at start of TZ games:

• mang songs (+6 daggers possible but incredibly rare for only +1)
  
• measured wrath (+5-6 tomes if possible, and join game with a 4+ bind demon tome if possible)
  
• enigma
  
• +3 plain demon circlet
  
• +3 plain demon ammy
  
• 2x sojs
  
• magefist
  
• arachs
  
• wraithstep
  
• 7-8x plain demon skillers, torch, anni, sunder (can get +1 demon over sunder for bind demon joining, but must have sunder equipped when summoning tainted)

You only use that gear at the start of a TZ game, then swap to your real gear. And that could actually be a pretty wide range of setups, because now you mostly care about QoL, MF, resists, dr, etc more than damage, and may not even want 125 fcr because it goes too fast to pick up items and sacrifices too much MF/survival. But there's a few options

Wearing during runs:

• Insight staff heavily recommended for meditation aura (could be obsession or mang songs for blood boil dps)
  
• Ars baalos for blood boil, with defender's fire (could be ars meph for fcr/mf, or just keep measured wrath on for fcr/resists)
  
• enigma
  
• +2 lock / fcr / resists rare circlet + facets ideal for 125 setup (could just use um'd kiras, or shako, or even crown of ages)
  
• +2 lock / fcr crafted ammy for 125 setup (rising sun or maras for survivability at 75 fcr, or an MF ammy)
  
• 2x opalveins for 125, otherwise at 75 sojs or mf rings or even nagels or a raven for cbf or dwarf/wisp
  
• magefists (or chanceguards)
  
• arachs or gheeds mostly for the resists, not really worth swapping though is it
  
• rare resist/mf boots
  
• any amount of skillers you want, could just be mf/life/res charms, but keep fire sunder
  
• cta/spirit swap
  
• might or prayer merc with infinity, coh, cure (skin of the flayed one + protector's stone also works, cold/light resist don't really need to max here)

There's a pretty wide latitude for balancing your QoL/mf/survival on your runtime gear. I am just using insight staff + um'd kiras + rising sun at 75 fcr, but if I hit resists without kiras I'd be tempted to swap to shako. Shako+maras would only be 50% mf difference anyway, mostly just +4 bo and it barely matters. You can hit 75% fcr off magefist+arachs+insight alone.

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 30 2026 11:08am

and the skills should be
20 summon tainted
20 demonic mastery (10 by level ~10 to level up faster)
20 blood boil
20 engorge
remaining points blood oath (maxed at 97)
1 point bind demon
1 point hex siphon
1 point sigil lethargy
0 consume, don't even get it, you could use it off ars baalos but its just not worth using at all on this setup

Ideal bound demon now is a dark lancer from any of the act 5 areas (frigid, frozen river, ancients way, worldstone keep 1), in a P8 terrorized game with cursed affix, applying shard to act 5 and finding the lancers. Prespawn them while people are still in game, then bind them one by one until you get a cursed + holy freeze lancer (with +19 bind demon skills equipped). That will lock in the P8 hp. Right now the HP is so astronomically high there's not really any benefit to other demons like urdars, and the DPS of a lancer is so much higher than a venom lord that its worth more than the extra % ctc amp provided by a venom lord's inferno.

Thank you for you input .

What is a good alternative for the opalvein / helm and tri res boots ? I currently have sojs or should I make cast rings . Using eth treks for boots . Have several tri res boots but all are mid rolls. Wereing flicker flame currantly but I can shop for the magic circ but till then what is a good alternative.

Its also a question of how much swapping you want to do at the start of a game. I just keep 2x sojs on full time and don't need to swap them (can only shift+click one ring, the other has to be manually dragged and dropped). If you don't want to go 125 fcr, you can use basically any ring setup. 2x sojs or 2x bk to prebuff, then any raven/wisp/dwarf setup, or mf rings, nagels, whatever.
Since you should be summoning at the start of the game and tainted almost never die, any helm setup for MF, survivability or QoL works. It could be um'd kiras, crown of ages, shako, etc. +3/20/2 circlet and +2/20/2 diadem are ideal for DPS on a 125% fcr build, but you can even just use a Coven runeword now on a 125 build since its 40% mf / 30 fire resist.

Gearing you wear during the runs is really wide open on that. But you should really try to get a +3 demon circlet rather than flickering flame to summon, since its also +3 to demonic mastery / +3 blood oath

agreed on the 3 demon 20 fcr . mf coming from full clears with easter egg ritual