Just out of interest, what damage numbers are you hitting with the grief build (real damage and not lcs) I'm asking because I'm trying to decide between a dream zealer and a regular holy shock zealer.

This post was edited by draftw3dr on Apr 28 2017 08:47am

dream zealer > regular holy shock
because you are able to use fanat or conviction as your aura


This post was edited by The_Charade on Apr 28 2017 09:08am

you mean the pala would be using holy shock?
don't

wow

nice dmg @death+forty

but... but... i cant without eni

Uhh no idea tbh. Test it with a weapon with 431-435 damage (real dmg ofc).

Both are viable but as lilith and the_charade said a dreamzealer is better. However you can go for self shock with full gris. Dmg will be higher (atleast light).



Well with gris and facets its viable but in the end a little worse than grief/death setups.



Eni is OP indeed

tbh, i did not test dreamer with phys element well (just grabbed grief from mate, killed dia, and throw this useless shit out ^^) and running pure elemental convictor with azure

cant say is it more powerful or not compare to forti... but...

... i just need tele badly

whats your thoughts about azure?

Azure is fine ofc. With this u hab slightly higher ele dmg coz open sock for rbf.

However grief/death are (too) op for this

E; phys dmg is perhaps better cuz you have 2 sources of dmg: phys and light. With full light you are a little more merc depended for immunes (there are still a few, so..)

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Apr 29 2017 03:13am

dont say

i have:

250-500 Magic Damage
250-500 Cold Damage

from sword

+ many others sources of elemental dmg...

its like:

265-545 cold
100-200 fire
250-500 magic

per (1!) hit total

ofc, the numbers going up when poor monsters get negative res (lvl27 conva, -150 res )

I am liking the Beast Caddy I made with a +3 conviction base, seem funner than the grief. Not sure about the damage loss but it seems a more fun playstyle and I
still wipe most things out easily.
I use Enigma to save stats, but may try the dragon or bramble for another aura
my favorite char to play

This post was edited by Soulphage on Apr 29 2017 08:53pm

Dunno what would be better... having 1kish other ele dmg (or mby 2k) or 400 dmg+xxx ed from zeal and synergy and fana.. quite sure this would be higher anyway
But do w/e u want. Both work anyway ^^



You lose a lot of dmg ye. Also its breakable.
If u dont mind repairing ur weapon (a lot) then just use it if u want.