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Apr 23 2008 03:09pm
If you want to use a Bow CTA, make one in a fast bow. Damage shouldn't be a primary concern.
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Apr 23 2008 03:13pm
Quote (hacefrio @ Wed, Apr 23 2008, 11:06pm)
I am assuming you still want to be able to use shadow dancers upon switch to cta/faith...


Oh yeah' that's a good point, I totally forgot that. guess you'll have to invest on stre if you want SS on or then just use a good res sanctuary and live with 15% DR.
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Apr 23 2008 03:15pm
Your lack of dueling strategies for Bone Necs and Sorcs is interesting.
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Apr 23 2008 03:24pm
They are right under the 'casters' topic, most of them just tele randomly and hope hitting you + I was too lazy to write the strategies section which I did mention too. (+lack of real tips vs hammers biggrin.gif)

Oh well, not like anyone will follow the tips 100% nor will the opponents react exactly in the same way so I see the duel tips rather pointless, there's no secret tip for beating other char's, get them poisoned, dodge and finish with lf/guided. weak char's can be beaten with only bow. (and some very low life sorcs 1 hitted with plague)
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Well the real issue concerning strength is the dancers..req 168. So If you go for the dancers SS is no problem. I already added enough str for my dancers anyway so now I have to decide what to put into valk/ss. I am thinking about putting in resists/ ais. Is the ais for the bow and not the jav throwing? How important is ais over all?

On a side note..

PM me if you have a GM/MAT of any type ft. Also i need java gcs.

This post was edited by hacefrio on Apr 23 2008 03:39pm
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Apr 24 2008 06:48am
The IAS's for the bow, there's a casting delay with plague so it doesn't matter.

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Apr 24 2008 11:54am
got mat faith..dex req is rediculous..shudda seen that comin

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Quote (Spurgu @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 11:44am)
With tele you'd be losing dmg with poison, FHR and  speed on bow.

I doubt you've seen/tried/dueled against anyone with this build (well I did try dueling with my plague bowa yesterday, EUSCNL). I'm guessing the person you saw was very skilled but if someone's skilled, it doesn't really matter what you're using that much, so I wouldn't call this build garbage since someone skilled could use it well. (I'm not skilled or anything, incase someone did duel against me in some random pub yesterday.)


wrong i actually had acces to tele psn java
dmg difference isnt worth the mobility +life bonus

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You gotta be kidding. Sacrificing brambles psn dmge is impossible. It doubles your damge. Plus you will have plenty of frw so mobility is alrdy addressed. A high life isnt that significant when we have d/a/e.
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Apr 24 2008 02:18pm
Let's see..

FRW = tele (we got quite high FRW anyway, even higher with FRW sk's and all that so it doesn't really provide you that much/any upper hand)

So you'd be left with:

+ A bit more life (you don't gain THAT much life from a tele setup anyway. Get life sk's, 20/5's, CTA + spirit + hoto's oak and all kind's of +skill eq for prebuffing if it makes you feel safer but honestly, even with my 1.2k life (w/o bo) I don't feel scared to duel anyone.For example: I've been able to go 1 vs 3 (smiter, hammer pala that charged + bvc) without geting hit (I couldn't kill them though, brought them all to 1 life but we know pub's these day.. a lot of kissing with akara) (ok, so it might be that they just sucked but I'm not that good dueler myself neither so.. ) so it doesn't really come down to who has more life)


- Low FHR (gl with leap barb's)

- A lot slower + weaker poison dmg (what bug's be me most is that you will be teleing with a titan's + stormshield/sanctuary.. this is a plague bowa build so you'll be wearing a bow on switch, not spirit + wiz/hoto.. so it require's you to change item's a lot, fcr amu+ring's, shield, arach's, trang oul gloves (great gloves no? fcr + dmg).
The difference is huge + the skill's add time on weak poison that already takes long. Even with %psn and rather slow time it feels slow when bringing down a barb with 7k life )


- Weaker and slower ability to bow (are there any FCR + IAS ring/amu's? I mean good one's so you'd actually ba able to hit the bp's.)



Either you forget about bowing and just go tele plague or make a very weak plague bowa that can tele.
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