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Apr 10 2012 04:43pm
Quote (wooliebooger @ Apr 10 2012 10:17pm)
I believe ignorance is best shown on this site by the people who are too close minded and refuse the legitimacy of something based on poor facts and prejudice. Yes, it is a rare build and yes, a smiter or many of the other pub builds are more effective in the long run. The fact that you've never seen something does not mean they did exist. Google bearzon and see what pops up. Do a little research on claims you make next time. Also, I know you might not believe it exists, but there is such a thing as spell check. You should use it a little more so you don't come off as another random troll who can't understand the concept of basic English.


its utterly stupid to get on someone for his language... im really sorry that im not professor of english philology-_- Try than polish u dumbass... id laugh hard seeing you overheating your brain while trying to learn declination of simplest word;)

also id like u to read once again my post #34... understanding what u read is imo more important than correct spelling;)
i meaned that iv never dueled DECENT ONE - NOT THAT IV NEVER DUELED ONE-_-

and i googled 'bearzon and only crapp popped out;)


face the fact kid... u cant kidd any caster with it without mass absorb cuz they will keep u outta range
-u can kill any meele with it because any barb, smiter, shaper are simply better in combat...
than what u can kill?-_-
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Apr 10 2012 05:01pm
Quote (mysz15 @ Apr 10 2012 05:43pm)
its utterly stupid to get on someone for his language... im really sorry that im not professor of english philology-_-  Try than polish u dumbass... id laugh hard seeing you overheating your brain while trying to learn declination of simplest word;)

also id like u to read once again my post #34...  understanding what u read is imo more important than correct spelling;)
i meaned that iv never dueled DECENT ONE - NOT THAT IV NEVER DUELED ONE-_-

and i googled 'bearzon and only crapp popped out;)


face the fact kid... u cant kidd any caster with it without mass absorb cuz they will keep u outta range
-u can kill any meele with it because any barb, smiter, shaper are simply better in combat...
than what u can kill?-_-


See the dueling strategies section for answers on how to kill the various types of pvp characters with a bearzon. If you would take the time to reread through my post #35, you'll notice that at no point did I mention anything of you having any sort of education in English Philology. I stated that your inability to create a cohesive sentence made you appear as another troll who cannot understand the concept of basic English; you should try to do a little more research once again. I will admit that I missed the part where you said you've run into a bearzon before but it was bound to happen with all the chaos going on in your post. Also, I have no need to learn Polish because there has yet to be an incident where I have needed to use the language to meet an ends. You however chose to post in my thread, blabbering incoherent rhetoric about a build you not only don't understand, but refuse to accept that there are other things out there then what you currently use, and also in a language you are obviously not very familiar with. I am more then fine with this build in pvp. If you cannot figure out how to use this zon then this is probably not the guide for you. I suggest going back to the stickies and looking for a hdin guide.
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Apr 10 2012 05:04pm
People are taking this way too seriously.
This can be a fun, creative amazon that you can have some success with it; but of course it isn't going to be a tier 1 build.
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Apr 10 2012 05:07pm
Quote (young2093 @ Apr 10 2012 06:04pm)
People are taking this way too seriously.
This can be a fun, creative amazon that you can have some success with it; but of course it isn't going to be a tier 1 build.


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Apr 10 2012 05:16pm
Quote (wooliebooger @ Apr 10 2012 11:01pm)
See the dueling strategies section for answers on how to kill the various types of pvp characters with a bearzon. If you would take the time to reread through my post #35, you'll notice that at no point did I mention anything of you having any sort of education in English Philology. I stated that your inability to create a cohesive sentence made you appear as another troll who cannot understand the concept of basic English; you should try to do a little more research once again. I will admit that I missed the part where you said you've run into a bearzon before but it was bound to happen with all the chaos going on in your post. Also, I have no need to learn Polish because there has yet to be an incident where I have needed to use the language to meet an ends. You however chose to post in my thread, blabbering incoherent rhetoric about a build you not only don't understand, but refuse to accept that there are other things out there then what you currently use, and also in a language you are obviously not very familiar with. I am more then fine with this build in pvp. If you cannot figure out how to use this zon then this is probably not the guide for you. I suggest going back to the stickies and looking for a hdin guide.



u r trying to win this argue with arguments that has nothing to do with the build itself...
if i cant speak english perfectly than i cant post here? I dont see any info about that and any requiremens in registration process..

u just cant accept the critique and face the fact that this build has veeery little chances to kill any decent pvper
if someone doesnt agree with u , than u automaticly accuse him for beeing unskilled, uninformed and inexperienced... isnt that childish? mr english professor...

eu/us west/east/asia???

Quote (young2093 @ Apr 10 2012 11:04pm)
People are taking this way too seriously.
This can be a fun, creative amazon that you can have some success with it; but of course it isn't going to be a tier 1 build.


i have to +1 to that;) maby we went too serious... but i just dont like theorycrafting;\P

This post was edited by mysz15 on Apr 10 2012 05:17pm
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Apr 10 2012 05:28pm
Quote (mysz15 @ Apr 10 2012 06:16pm)
u r trying to win this argue with arguments that has nothing to do with the build itself...
if i cant speak english perfectly than i cant post here? I dont see any info about that and any requiremens  in registration process..

u just cant accept the critique and face the fact that this build has veeery little chances to kill any decent pvper
if someone doesnt agree with u , than u  automaticly accuse him for beeing unskilled, uninformed and inexperienced... isnt that childish? mr english professor...

eu/us west/east/asia???



i have to +1 to that;)  maby we went too serious...  but i just dont like theorycrafting;\P



There was no argument to win. You apparently have a lot of interest in this build since you're tracking the thread. I appreciate the bumps you're giving me, even though they are failed attempts at trying to justify why you can't use a build such as a bearzon but then morph into your frustration over your inability to properly convey your thoughts in text so everyone can understand. People are more then welcome to disagree; I have no problem with that. Where I do have a problem is when the person who disagrees slanders my work repeatedly without understanding what kind of build this is. If you were to make a guide about how you built your mfdin, you might understand where I'm coming from. Constructive criticism goes much farther then just openly rejecting the build all together. This guide is not about how awesome your ubersmite or your hdin is and how they're always the end all be all in everything they do; its about how to effectively construct and use a bearzon. Further remarks from you will just be reported as spam from here on out.
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Apr 10 2012 06:14pm
Quote (wooliebooger @ Apr 10 2012 11:28pm)
There was no argument to win. You apparently have a lot of interest in this build since you're tracking the thread. I appreciate the bumps you're giving me, even though they are failed attempts at trying to justify why you can't use a build such as a bearzon but then morph into your frustration over your inability to properly convey your thoughts in text so everyone can understand. People are more then welcome to disagree; I have no problem with that. Where I do have a problem is when the person who disagrees slanders my work repeatedly without understanding what kind of build this is. If you were to make a guide about how you built your mfdin, you might understand where I'm coming from. Constructive criticism goes much farther then just openly rejecting the build all together. This guide is not about how awesome your ubersmite or your hdin is and how they're always the end all be all in everything they do; its about how to effectively construct and use a bearzon. Further remarks from you will just be reported as spam from here on out.


haha u must be american;DDD

let me point out whats crappy about that build:

1. for meele chars which dont have tele or charge u need high range weapon, while u picked second lowest... good luck with catching any sorc...

2. this char can just run and hit... doesnt have any other active skill, so theres almost no tactic to use - and this is the most sad thing because u cant do nothing about the fact that this char is naturally not too good pvper... basicly there are only few builds which u have advantage over and be able to kill... and mostly they r rare;/

3. u need unaffortable for common user, items to make this char decent...


huh, i dont want to quarell but i just cant stand someone whos so confident about his opinion that it makes him blind...
I generally like non-coockie-cutter builds and this one seems to be really cool but u just cant claim thats its good pvper and u cant compete with most of regular builds...
its just fun char for pub duels where u can always find ez nebwz, but any half-decent pvper will kill ez u and rapre ur corpse...

This post was edited by mysz15 on Apr 10 2012 06:19pm
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Apr 10 2012 06:15pm
why so much hate? its a well written guide and bear zon seems fun. who cares if it cant win vs most, people need new stuff! :)
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Apr 10 2012 06:16pm
Quote (Bojana @ Apr 11 2012 12:15am)
why so much hate? its a well written guide and bear zon seems fun. who cares if it cant win vs most, people need new stuff! :)


yes i agree but when author spread theories how badass it is we just have to react;)
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Apr 10 2012 06:48pm
Quote (CraZeeY @ Apr 10 2012 08:34am)
Every single matchup is rated as either "hard", "tedious" or "easy vs some hard vs some".
Hdin isn't a FPK char, when you stated that you showed us that you have no clue about PvP.
I'm one of EU's top Javazons, I know how Amazons work and this won't.



You do know that the main reason smiters slam Amazons is because they dodge-lock you, right? I can no other than think that zealers will slam this char to oblivion.


LOL
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